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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: To CREATINE or not to CREATINE...that is the question? |
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Anyone actively use creatine? |
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DrOctagon

Joined: 11 Jun 2008 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it's in my weight gainer. I drink a serving before and after my workout. It's alright as long as you drink tons of water. And I wouldn't use it for more than a few months in a row, depending on how much you're taking. Sorry, can't give you more info than that. |
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Dukey77777

Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Location: Chungcheongbuk-do
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:07 am Post subject: |
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I cycle 4 weeks on, 2 weeks off. Currently on my off cycle. I did notice a difference after just 4 weeks. |
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Dude Ranch

Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:37 am Post subject: |
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It made me piss like a race horse, and it wasn't just because I was drinking a lot of water
all in all stuff like this is hugely over-used by the ameuter weight lifting crowd. I think its really only worth the money and time if you are really serious into weight lifting
I would just suggest checking out Mark Rippetoe (google him and look at his 5x5 starting strength program in particular) he is known for adding 30 pounds a year on most of the guys he trains. Do that on a regular basis and have a fairly decent diet and thats all you really need |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: |
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I've used it a few times, and it does work. Usually I've been able to add five-ten pounds to every set on big lifts (e.g. squats) and two and a half-five pounds to smalll lifts (e.g. barbell curls) while keeping reps the same or, sometimes, a few more reps.
Great pumps too
Ultimately though, it comes down to cost/benefit: It's safe and cheap. What have you got to lose? |
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sharkey

Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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that stuff is for pussies, go all natural.. your body will thank you later in life
creatine = for shitty weight lifters who just pump their guns and have puny legs |
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Pink Freud
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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sharkey wrote: |
that stuff is for pussies, go all natural.. your body will thank you later in life
creatine = for shitty weight lifters who just pump their guns and have puny legs |
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SOOHWA101
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Everytime I start working out again I wait for at least one month of steady working out before I touch the stuff. By doing this, I make sure I have hit a small plateau (sp?) before putting it in my system. I ALWAYS see a major difference after 2-3 weeks of using.
It's really simple science. It enables your body to pump longer and harder, which rips and tears your muscles just that much more. Great stuff! |
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Jandar

Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Good idea. |
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sharkey

Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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SOOHWA101 wrote: |
Everytime I start working out again I wait for at least one month of steady working out before I touch the stuff. By doing this, I make sure I have hit a small plateau (sp?) before putting it in my system. I ALWAYS see a major difference after 2-3 weeks of using.
It's really simple science. It enables your body to pump longer and harder, which rips and tears your muscles just that much more. Great stuff! |
if you were a serious weight lifter you wouldnt take significant time off, oh well, keep gulping the creatine |
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NoExplode

Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Do it. I gain like 5 pounds of water weight when I'm cycling it, and I get a real bloated face and chin, but when I cycle off, I've made measurable gains in strength and size. I do hate the bloat though. |
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Pink Freud
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:58 am Post subject: |
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sharkey wrote: |
SOOHWA101 wrote: |
Everytime I start working out again I wait for at least one month of steady working out before I touch the stuff. By doing this, I make sure I have hit a small plateau (sp?) before putting it in my system. I ALWAYS see a major difference after 2-3 weeks of using.
It's really simple science. It enables your body to pump longer and harder, which rips and tears your muscles just that much more. Great stuff! |
if you were a serious weight lifter you wouldnt take significant time off, oh well, keep gulping the creatine |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: |
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sharkey wrote: |
that stuff is for pussies, go all natural.. your body will thank you later in life
creatine = for shitty weight lifters who just pump their guns and have puny legs |
It means anything to you, my legs aren't puny: I have a below parallel squat of 275 pounds and a 400 pound deadlift.
Now that I've done away with your ad hominum attack, let's get to the real issue: why is creatine for "pussies"? |
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beast
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: |
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It is probably the best gainer out there besides steroids. Creatine however, can not ever be compared to a steroid. Steroids will make you grow freakishly large in a very short time, but have all the side affects and legal issues. Creatine will not make you grow freakishly large, but it will make you see results when you look in the mirror, usually within six or seven days after first use. However, the results are not long lasting if you discontinue usage. it's good for getting a little bit bigger for a trip to the beach or something like that, but the results will decrease in a week or so after you stop using. It's short term, quick, but non lasting gainer. |
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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Location: Not far from the deep end.
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: |
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sharkey wrote: |
that stuff is for pussies, go all natural.. your body will thank you later in life
creatine = for shitty weight lifters who just pump their guns and have puny legs |
WORST LOGIC EVER. (Are you a troll?)
Creatine is a very natural substance; in fact it is even used by "natural" bodybuilders. I don'[t even think you really know what "all natural" really means. Maybe you think "all natural" mean "no-supplements?" Anyways some enlightenment for you:
From Wikipedia:
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In humans, approximately half of stored creatine originates from food (mainly from fresh meat). Since vegetables do not contain creatine, vegetarians show lower levels of muscle creatine which, upon creatine supplementation, rise to a level higher than in meat-eaters.[6]
In humans, about half of the daily creatine is biosynthesized from three different amino acids - arginine, glycine, and methionine. The rest is taken in by alimentary sources. Ninety-five percent of creatine is later stored in the skeletal muscles. |
Nothing about that sounds 'unnatural' and the IOC doesn't have any rules in place against creatine. Why? because it is a naturally occuring amino acid.
I take creatine once a day after each workout (and once during my off-days) and currently I squat 1 x 6 / 160 kg. Don't know what my max is. All in the course of 10 months (10 months ago I couldn't even squat 80 kg once). This is all in addition to a very good dietary regimen (high protein, high complex carbs, high calorie, low fat). So count me (along with CdnInKorea) as an exception to the "guys who just pump their guns." |
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