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theBengi



Joined: 11 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: teaching job for a non-white teacher? Reply with quote

Hi guys, I'm a native speaker from England of south east Asian origin. I've been trying to get a job in Seoul for about a month but its the same old story/excuses (Americans preferred, female preferred) I guess it might be genuine requests but I cant help thinking its also a bit racist too. I might be wrong, I might be right, but that not my concern. I have previous experience of teaching in Korea. I'm just looking to get back and earn some doe. Can anyone recommend any recruiters or even schools in Seoul that maybe able to help me out, I tried almost all of them on the jobs board but I'm guessing there will be schools that don't advertise here.

peace and love
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i4NI



Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called miss cleo and she told me you were bengali
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: teaching job for a non-white teacher? Reply with quote

theBengi wrote:
I'm just looking to get back and earn some doe.


Ooh, then you might want to try a different country. They don't pay us in deer here.

(sorry, I had to)
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you must be applying for private schools aka hagwon. they tend to go for young, white, north americans since it's a business and they attract more parents. i would suggest going for a public school, if you're determined to come to korea, it's the safest bet (although there is still an enormous amount of crap associated with a PS position as well).
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad-ish wrote:
you must be applying for private schools aka hagwon. they tend to go for young, white, north americans since it's a business and they attract more parents. i would suggest going for a public school, if you're determined to come to korea, it's the safest bet (although there is still an enormous amount of crap associated with a PS position as well).


agreed. at Gepik there is a SIGNIFICANT percentage of not so young, and not so white faces for example.
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refikaM



Joined: 06 May 2006
Location: Gangwondo

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: positions Reply with quote

I agree that your color/race is much less of an issue in public schools.. I teach for EPIK/Gangwondo and know many non-caucasian and some non-caucasian non-N.American teachers here...
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lohengrin



Joined: 16 Mar 2008
Location: Loompaland

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

come work for GEPIK, I met some teachers at the last meeting who can barely speak any English! (it seems they are now so desperate they'll take anybody, including people without degrees)



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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see job postings all the time from Hagwons looking for "gyopo" teachers.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:
I see job postings all the time from Hagwons looking for "gyopo" teachers.


gyopo implies korean ancestry though, doesn't it?
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've worked in a PS and during my time there, I met some of the other teachers in PS around my area. We had one guy in our district who was Iranian-American and a woman who was African-American. I tend to think you would be more l likely to be hired as a ps teacher.

In my opinion, the job is a lot safer in some respects because you don't get jerked around about getting paid. The downside is having to put up with a huge bureaucratic system (often getting signatures from three people just to do something), 15 days vacation and you are stuck at school while all the Korean teachers and students are on vacation (unless of course you are taking your few vacation days).

Anyway, you might look into it.
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SA gal



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, i am of indian descent, and work at a hagwon in seoul... try getting into contact with kevin from tiger english, good luck
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: teaching job for a non-white teacher? Reply with quote

theBengi wrote:
its the same old story/excuses (Americans preferred, female preferred) I guess it might be genuine requests but I cant help thinking its also a bit racist too.


Racist & Sexist

Too bad the adjosshis don't realize that this policy makes the f-dudes there look a whole lot better!
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: teaching job for a non-white teacher? Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
theBengi wrote:
its the same old story/excuses (Americans preferred, female preferred) I guess it might be genuine requests but I cant help thinking its also a bit racist too.


Racist & Sexist

Too bad the adjosshis don't realize that this policy makes the f-dudes there look a whole lot better!


Yes, too bad that Koreans want to learn American English, since that's where most of their exports go. Too bad they don't export much to Bangladesh.
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: teaching job for a non-white teacher? Reply with quote

ChinaBoy wrote:

Yes, too bad that Koreans want to learn American English, since that's where most of their exports go. Too bad they don't export much to Bangladesh.


I get your point, but the OP is BRITISH.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had schools tell me that GEPIk prefers only Americans and Brits for their provincial English camps.

Even the government won't make an attempt to remove racism, so why would the schools?
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