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Which has less class preparation - public school or hogwan?
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depth



Joined: 01 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Which has less class preparation - public school or hogwan? Reply with quote

am considering changing to a public school.

im wondering how much class preparation time... on average, is required. also, are you required to hand in lesson plans to your supervisor?

at my current hogwan, preparation is about 10minutes per class. the books are self explanatory, so its all quite easy to teach. im not required to hand in lesson plans to the supervisor.

thanks for any advice

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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are as many answers to your questions as there are PS teachers willing to respond.

The secret to success in the PS system is to train your co-teacher/handler to put everything in writing, be adaptable, expect the unexpected and pour your vice principal's & principal's soju with both hands.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on the PS...Mine was near zero for each class....we followed the book.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do way more prep at my public school job than I did at my hagwon job, but that's laregly a reflection of how much I've liked and wanted to put into each respective job.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would put in, probably way less than 3 hours a week. It seems like if I plan too hard I get more work dumped on me. We follow the book though, mostly.
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

last year, i was allowed to follow the book, this year i have to plan all my lessons from scratch. i do a lot of prep time.

my suggestion is go with a public elementary school, elementary schools seem to almost always go by the book, plus it seems like there's more co-teacher involvement as well. hopefully some elem teachers can speak up here (i'm middle school, by the way), all i know is my friends from elem schools are coasting
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Zutronius



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a book to follow at my high school and have to make my own lessons every week.
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ChinaBoy



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zutronius wrote:
I don't have a book to follow at my high school and have to make my own lessons every week.


Why not just buy a book and act like you made the lessons yourself?
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad-ish wrote:
last year, i was allowed to follow the book, this year i have to plan all my lessons from scratch. i do a lot of prep time.

my suggestion is go with a public elementary school, elementary schools seem to almost always go by the book, plus it seems like there's more co-teacher involvement as well. hopefully some elem teachers can speak up here (i'm middle school, by the way), all i know is my friends from elem schools are coasting


Watch out for EPIK... they'll tell you you're going to one and then send you to middle school!

If I'd known then what I know now, I would have flat out refused to leave orientation until they reassigned or fired me. Easy to say now, I guess. Money was short and I had no idea of how it would turn out.
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChinaBoy wrote:
Zutronius wrote:
I don't have a book to follow at my high school and have to make my own lessons every week.


Why not just buy a book and act like you made the lessons yourself?


You'll rarely ever find a book that suits all the needs of a Korean HS class.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
ChinaBoy wrote:
Zutronius wrote:
I don't have a book to follow at my high school and have to make my own lessons every week.


Why not just buy a book and act like you made the lessons yourself?


You'll rarely ever find a book that suits all the needs of a Korean HS class.


Painfully true in my experience as well (in middle school).
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same lesson 22 times does not take much time to prepare. It does get hard to keep them middle school brats interested so I change the lessons depending on how well they are received by the first few classes.
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
If I'd known then what I know now, I would have flat out refused to leave orientation until they reassigned or fired me. Easy to say now, I guess. Money was short and I had no idea of how it would turn out.


Holy shit! You must have signed the 'national' EPIC contract - "We can send you anywhere in K-land". My original (provincial) EPIK contract had an ammendmet - at my insistance - specifying my school. Since renewing, I now belong to my school. The other GETs in town will be doing English camps (ironically, at my school) while I'm in Bali on holidays.
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Easter Clark



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my PS I could spend 3 hours or 20 minutes planning and got the same results. At my hogwan job (which I love) prep is about 5 minutes/class on average. It's nice not having to teach the same lesson 12+ times/week.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad-ish wrote:
last year, i was allowed to follow the book, this year i have to plan all my lessons from scratch. i do a lot of prep time.

my suggestion is go with a public elementary school, elementary schools seem to almost always go by the book, plus it seems like there's more co-teacher involvement as well. hopefully some elem teachers can speak up here (i'm middle school, by the way), all i know is my friends from elem schools are coasting


I'm Elementary....we follow the book, but we can and sometimes do diverge from the book. Coasting is the correct word, although I'm thinking about doing more advanced lesson plans.
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