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Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: Which has less class preparation - public school or hogwan? |
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am considering changing to a public school.
im wondering how much class preparation time... on average, is required. also, are you required to hand in lesson plans to your supervisor?
at my current hogwan, preparation is about 10minutes per class. the books are self explanatory, so its all quite easy to teach. im not required to hand in lesson plans to the supervisor.
thanks for any advice
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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There are as many answers to your questions as there are PS teachers willing to respond.
The secret to success in the PS system is to train your co-teacher/handler to put everything in writing, be adaptable, expect the unexpected and pour your vice principal's & principal's soju with both hands. |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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depends on the PS...Mine was near zero for each class....we followed the book. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I do way more prep at my public school job than I did at my hagwon job, but that's laregly a reflection of how much I've liked and wanted to put into each respective job. |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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I would put in, probably way less than 3 hours a week. It seems like if I plan too hard I get more work dumped on me. We follow the book though, mostly. |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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last year, i was allowed to follow the book, this year i have to plan all my lessons from scratch. i do a lot of prep time.
my suggestion is go with a public elementary school, elementary schools seem to almost always go by the book, plus it seems like there's more co-teacher involvement as well. hopefully some elem teachers can speak up here (i'm middle school, by the way), all i know is my friends from elem schools are coasting |
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Zutronius

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Location: Suncheon
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have a book to follow at my high school and have to make my own lessons every week. |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Zutronius wrote: |
I don't have a book to follow at my high school and have to make my own lessons every week. |
Why not just buy a book and act like you made the lessons yourself? |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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nomad-ish wrote: |
last year, i was allowed to follow the book, this year i have to plan all my lessons from scratch. i do a lot of prep time.
my suggestion is go with a public elementary school, elementary schools seem to almost always go by the book, plus it seems like there's more co-teacher involvement as well. hopefully some elem teachers can speak up here (i'm middle school, by the way), all i know is my friends from elem schools are coasting |
Watch out for EPIK... they'll tell you you're going to one and then send you to middle school!
If I'd known then what I know now, I would have flat out refused to leave orientation until they reassigned or fired me. Easy to say now, I guess. Money was short and I had no idea of how it would turn out. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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ChinaBoy wrote: |
Zutronius wrote: |
I don't have a book to follow at my high school and have to make my own lessons every week. |
Why not just buy a book and act like you made the lessons yourself? |
You'll rarely ever find a book that suits all the needs of a Korean HS class. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
ChinaBoy wrote: |
Zutronius wrote: |
I don't have a book to follow at my high school and have to make my own lessons every week. |
Why not just buy a book and act like you made the lessons yourself? |
You'll rarely ever find a book that suits all the needs of a Korean HS class. |
Painfully true in my experience as well (in middle school). |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Same lesson 22 times does not take much time to prepare. It does get hard to keep them middle school brats interested so I change the lessons depending on how well they are received by the first few classes. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Draz wrote: |
If I'd known then what I know now, I would have flat out refused to leave orientation until they reassigned or fired me. Easy to say now, I guess. Money was short and I had no idea of how it would turn out. |
Holy shit! You must have signed the 'national' EPIC contract - "We can send you anywhere in K-land". My original (provincial) EPIK contract had an ammendmet - at my insistance - specifying my school. Since renewing, I now belong to my school. The other GETs in town will be doing English camps (ironically, at my school) while I'm in Bali on holidays. |
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:08 am Post subject: |
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In my PS I could spend 3 hours or 20 minutes planning and got the same results. At my hogwan job (which I love) prep is about 5 minutes/class on average. It's nice not having to teach the same lesson 12+ times/week. |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:23 am Post subject: |
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nomad-ish wrote: |
last year, i was allowed to follow the book, this year i have to plan all my lessons from scratch. i do a lot of prep time.
my suggestion is go with a public elementary school, elementary schools seem to almost always go by the book, plus it seems like there's more co-teacher involvement as well. hopefully some elem teachers can speak up here (i'm middle school, by the way), all i know is my friends from elem schools are coasting |
I'm Elementary....we follow the book, but we can and sometimes do diverge from the book. Coasting is the correct word, although I'm thinking about doing more advanced lesson plans. |
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