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Itaewon: What's in a name?

 
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: Itaewon: What's in a name? Reply with quote

Itaewon: What's in a name?

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=59769

Stars and Stripes
Pacific edition, Sunday, January 4, 2009

Itaewon has long been known as the foreigner�s neighborhood in South Korea.

The area got its name more than four centuries ago, when invading Japanese troops broke into a Buddhist temple there and raped the nuns.

When the Korean government returned to Seoul after the invasion, it allowed nuns who had gotten pregnant to live and raise their babies there at a nursery established for them.

The area was named I Tae Won. "I" means "different," "Tae" means "fetus," and "Won" means "home." Some Japanese troops who surrendered at the end of the war settled in Itaewon, establishing a permanent foreign presence there.

During the 1600s, Itaewon�s name came to mean "large pear tree" because of the trees planted there. There isn�t a single remaining pear tree in Itaewon.

Itaewon is know home to most of Seoul�s expat population.

SOURCE: Bae Woo-ri, Korean language scholar and president of the Korea Toponym Society.
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Straphanger



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I don't care for Shitaewon.
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Socks



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject: Re: Itaewon: What's in a name? Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:


The area was named I Tae Won. "I" means "different," "Tae" means "fetus," and "Won" means "home."


1600 - Waeguks (different people) to live in Itaewon..

Good old Toyotomi Hideyoshi (Emperor Taicosama)


p.s. ever since when does "I" mean different
and "Won" mean home ??

(Bang-I dong) (also can be written Bang-Lee dong) - after the "Lee guy" who first built up the neighbourhood..

so does "I" = "Lee" = different?
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slim dusty



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those who don't know how to use the online naver dictionary, the meaning of the name Itaewon can be found through the Chinese characters each syllable designates

이태원 = 梨泰院

梨 = 배나무 이 = Pear trees
泰 = 클 태 = Big
院 = 집 원 = Home

So, in English, the name Itaewon means something like 'home of the great pear trees'
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sojusucks



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foreigner's neighborhood = enthnic enclave society.

These happen all the time (think Chinatown). I took a course on human diaspora and the formation of ethnic enclave societiies in university. It is a very interesting subject.

Sons of the Yellow River is the only book I can recall at the moment. All my books from that course are back home though.
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Re: Itaewon: What's in a name? Reply with quote

Socks wrote:
wylies99 wrote:


The area was named I Tae Won. "I" means "different," "Tae" means "fetus," and "Won" means "home."


1600 - Waeguks (different people) to live in Itaewon..

Good old Toyotomi Hideyoshi (Emperor Taicosama)


p.s. ever since when does "I" mean different
and "Won" mean home ??

(Bang-I dong) (also can be written Bang-Lee dong) - after the "Lee guy" who first built up the neighbourhood..

so does "I" = "Lee" = different?


They're not standalone words, just like how the a in atheism reverses the meaning of a compound but you can't just say a to mean opposite. This paper has the following:

http://japan.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2003022657138

龍山一帯を指す梨泰院(イテウォン)という地名は、本来の漢字表記が「異胎院」で「胎の異なるところ」という意味があり、地名にも基地村として歴史が残っている。

which is the same as the op, that it originally means "other fetus home" (and then the hanja changed later on), but then again Korean scholars are often wrong about things related to Japan. You can see a lot of books here and there with false/folk etymologies that are quite suspicious.
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