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itaewonguy
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 Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: Atheists want God stricken from inaugural oath |
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 Like Atheists are any different to religious nuts!!!
BOO HOO HOO!!!
whats the bet the atheists get told to go home and shut up!!!
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WASHINGTON � President-elect Barack Obama wants to conclude his inaugural oath with the words "so help me God," but a group of atheists is asking a federal judge to stop him.
California atheist Michael Newdow sued Chief Justice John Roberts in federal court for an injunction barring the use of those words in the inaugural oath.
Newdow and other atheists and agnostics also want to stop the use of prayers during the inaugural celebration.
Newdow, who lost a Supreme Court battle to get the words "under God" taken out of the Pledge of Allegiance, has failed in similar challenges to the use of religious words and prayers at President George W. Bush's inaugurations.
Roberts' attorney Jeffrey P. Minear filed a document in Newdow's lawsuit saying that Obama wants the words "so help me God" included in his oath of office.
The Justice Department and attorneys general from all 50 states have filed motions at the federal court asking for the lawsuit to be thrown out.
The oath dictated by the Constitution is 35 words long and reads: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
The National Archives says that George Washington added the words "so help me God" when he took the oath at his 1789 inaugural, and most presidents have used it since. However, some have argued that the first eyewitness account of a president using those words came at President Chester Arthur's inauguration in 1881.
Named in Newdow's lawsuit are Roberts; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; and the two pastors invited to the event, the Rev. Rick Warren and the Rev. Joseph Lowery.
U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton will hear arguments on Thursday.
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think they'll get told that. Obama's a crowd pleasing puss, so I think it'll be another way to make people happy. "Well, I have a straight preacher and a gay preacher and some people are offended by the use of a deity. The evangelist preacher makes the Christians happy, the epicopal bishop makes gays happy and I will bend over backward for the adoration of the media"
%^*# I hate that guy along with the media bootlickers who would collect his farts in a jar to see if they smell like roses. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| How about they just change God to Odin? |
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greedy_bones
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: not quite sure anymore
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Teelo
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thedudeabides
Joined: 15 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Teelo wrote: |
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Yes, Americans have nothing to prove to people from... wherever you're from. Get lost. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| Thedudeabides wrote: |
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Yes, Americans have nothing to prove to people from... wherever you're from. Get lost. |
I don't think you are interpreting Teelo's comment correctly.
Let me try:
Americans are more worried about religion and dogma (both sides) more than war, the economy and things that truly affect all families' lives. So it's funny to laugh at them. I am also an American. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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God is not in the official oath. So it can't be struck. If a bride wants a cigarette purse on her day, you get her a cigarette purse. If the president wants to swear an oath on his day, you let him swear whatever oath is meaningful to him.
I don't think it's an establishment of religion. |
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greedy_bones
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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I'm not really sure what grounds this guy thinks he has for the lawsuit, but there don't seem to be any. The phrase, "So help me God" isn't part of the required pledge, so there isn't really any breach of the establishment clause. If this phrase was part of the official oath, I'd have a problem, but since this is a phrase presidents have chosen to add, it's ok in my book.
I do agree with this guy's lawsuit to have "under God" removed from the pledge of allegiance, however. A public institution does not have the constitutional right to tell students to swear allegiance to a nation under God. |
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