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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| The sense of entitlement on this board is absolutely mind-boggling. |
hmm...to be quite honest...what is more mind-boggling is your seeming lack of entitlement. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
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| The sense of entitlement on this board is absolutely mind-boggling. |
hmm...to be quite honest...what is more mind-boggling is your seeming lack of entitlement. |
I suspect you didn't put much thought into this comment other than "Duh, I'll turn this'un around on'im" given that I haven't indicated one way or another what I feel I am or am not entitled to. (But here's a hint: just because I have an F-5 visa, I do not expect blowjobs from $1000/hour hookers just for leaving my apartment in the morning.)
And once again, for the learning disabled: an entry level editing job =! a high paying ESL job. (Oh, and do some reading folks, the advert is for F-2, F-5, or E-2 visa holders who can get permission to work a second job.) |
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skconqueror
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:31 am Post subject: |
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I suspect you didn't put much thought into this comment other than "Duh, I'll turn this'un around on'im" given that I haven't indicated one way or another what I feel I am or am not entitled to. |
lol, yet in one of your posts you wrote
some do.. some don't.. there is a locked up argument right there..  |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| skconqueror wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
I suspect you didn't put much thought into this comment other than "Duh, I'll turn this'un around on'im" given that I haven't indicated one way or another what I feel I am or am not entitled to. |
lol, yet in one of your posts you wrote
some do.. some don't.. there is a locked up argument right there.. |
Reading comprehension must have passed you by. That was in reference to whether E-2 jobs paid more than 3.2million/month. Some do, some don't. Nothing at all about entitlement there. Jesus H. |
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skconqueror
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Reading comprehension must have passed you by. That was in reference to whether E-2 jobs paid more than 3.2million/month. Some do, some don't. Nothing at all about entitlement there. Jesus H. |
Yes, but your whole argument (that this job is not a rip off) hinges on the fact that they would make a higher wage than an E-2 visa holder. Saying that some hagwons pay more some pay less is hardly proving anything (besides you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground)  |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:53 am Post subject: Re: 20,000 an hour for f2-f5 visa |
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| Compensation: 20 000 won per hour based on experience + a cozy cubicle |
Cubicles are cozy? What, do they give you a massage-Barcalounger and a personal butler to tend your needs? |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| skconqueror wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
Reading comprehension must have passed you by. That was in reference to whether E-2 jobs paid more than 3.2million/month. Some do, some don't. Nothing at all about entitlement there. Jesus H. |
Yes, but your whole argument (that this job is not a rip off) hinges on the fact that they would make a higher wage than an E-2 visa holder. Saying that some hagwons pay more some pay less is hardly proving anything (besides you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground) |
No, retard, my argument was not that this job *would* pay better than a hagwon. My argument, which apparently, despite the fact that I've said it again, and again, and again, seems to have bypassed your single active brain-cell, is that there is nothing special about this job. Some jobs pay more hourly, some do not. It's an entry level job, and it pays the same as an average public school job hourly. There is nothing to see here. Learn some math, jackhole. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyways, the point is, with an F-2, 20k for an editor job is insulting - well insulting to teachers who have degrees and know how to teach. I know it isn't a teaching job, but imo editing is harder. Why work harder for 20k an hour? |
Well, let's put it this way. You seem to expect an entry level editing position to pay the same as an upper level esl position and you find it insulting when it isn't? The sense of entitlement on this board is absolutely mind-boggling. |
This is my sense of entitlement:
I have 10 years experience teaching ESL. I have a sense of my worth.
In those 10yrs, I have done editing for about 3 of those years.
20k an hour, no thanks.
What is mind boggling is someone with extensive experience settling for an entry-level job that doesn't pay for that experience.
You confuse me with those who are new to Korea or been here for a couple years. I came when salaries started at 900k-1mil won. I've done my entry level time.
Let's present this in a retail way:
If I worked in retail for 10 years, including being in management, would I apply for an entry-level job for minimum wage or would I expect my expertise and experience to count for more? |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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That you have editing experience is wholly unrelated to THIS job. THIS job is an ENTRY LEVEL job. YOU should not be looking at ENTRY LEVEL JOBS because you have EXPERIENCE. This is a really difficult concept, right? (Or did I miss the part where they mentioned you by name in the advert?) Is somebody holding a gun to your head?
Do you really not understand the concept of entry level positions? Do you really not understand that this job is not for you personally? Were you one of those kids who thought Mr. Rogers was speaking to you directly?
Christ on a shingle. Your position is basically saying, "Any job listed that is not aimed at somebody with 10 years of experience is insulting." Ri-god-damn-diculous. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| That you have editing experience is wholly unrelated to THIS job. THIS job is an ENTRY LEVEL job. |
Why would they expect people with mass-comm degrees and editing experience (both of which they ask for) for an entry level position? Anyone with such credentials would never settle for the pay they are offering.
They are underpaying for the experience they are expecting to hire. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
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| That you have editing experience is wholly unrelated to THIS job. THIS job is an ENTRY LEVEL job. |
Why would they expect people with mass-comm degrees and editing experience (both of which they ask for) for an entry level position? Anyone with such credentials would never settle for the pay they are offering.
They are underpaying for the experience they are expecting to hire. |
Yes, very difficult requirements to meet. Bachelors degree, my god! 5 years experience editing...no wait, 4 years exp...3? oh, no, just "experience required." Kind of like all those universities that "require" masters degrees, right? Because nobody with a bachelors degree has ever gotten to teach in a university in Korea, right?
You know, all you people have to do to shut me up is to show me that most editing jobs pay much better than this one, because honestly, I have no idea what editing pays. I just have a suspicion that either A) it doesn't pay all that well or B) if it does pay well, it's the best kept secret in Korea. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.worknplay.co.kr/jobseeker/jobSearchView.php?jobNum=165231&start=&page=&jobCategorySch=3
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English Editor wanted for Visitkorea.or.kr
Great News for all English-Korean Bilinguals!
Contract position at Korea Tourism Organization.
Being bilingual is necessary.
Visitkorea.or.kr Team of the Korea Tourism Organization would like to employ an English editor for our website. While you work at the Korea Tourism Organization, you will get a variety of opportunities to learn about Korean culture and visit Korea�s tourist destinations as well.
We hope many will apply for this position.
1. Job Description
- Writing and reviewing English articles and news for Visitkorea.or.kr website.
- Reply to English e-mails.
- Help operate, promote, and plan content for the English site of Visitkorea.or.kr
- Translate Korean to English
2. Contract Conditions
- Length of Contract: 1 year
- Work 5 days a week, 8 hours a day / 12 days vacation paid
- KTO will provide a working visa and medical insurance.
(A working visa and medical insurance will be available one month later from the contract date due to the processing time between KTO and the Korean government)
- Work at the KTO's main building in Jung-gu, Seoul.
- Payment: around 2,000,000 won to 2,400,000 won monthly
** The payment may be adjusted depending on the applicant�s work experience.
3. Requirements
- Must be able to read / write / speak English on the level of a native speaker. (Nationality does not matter.)
- Must be able to read / speak Korean.
- Must possess a bachelor's degree or higher.
- Current resident of Korea is preferred. |
Yep, sure looks like editing pays a lot of money, amirite?
Edit: That's 15k/hour for those of you not so good with the math.
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.worknplay.co.kr/jobseeker/jobSearchView.php?jobNum=166258&start=&page=&search=true&schVal=edit
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Curriculum Developer/editor at the YBM Head Office in Downtown Seoul No Teaching Required
Work within the YBM SISA�s Publishing Division as a writer / content developer to establish a new textbook series for children. No teaching will be required for this position. For F2, F4 and E7 applicants no criminal or health check will be required. Also for the E7 sponsorship all you need is your diploma and transcripts. The ideal candidate should be someone with very good writing skills and some experience teaching young children in Korea.
Who may apply
1. Must be in Korea to come in for an interview
2. Native English speakers as well as Korean-Americans and Korean-Canadians
3. Minimum BA degree or higher in any major
4. Must have teaching experience to children
Work Location: Seoul, Chongno 3-ga YBM SISA Head Office
Work Hours: 9:00 am to 6:00 pm Monday to Friday
Start Date: Oct to Nov start
Contract Length: One year contract (extension possibility)
Salary: 2.4 million won to 2.6 million won
Benefits: Severance pay, pension tax refund compliance, all national holidays off plus 10 vacation days selected by the employee, airfare provided or reimbursed, Korean National Health Insurance coverage, work visa sponsorship.
If you are interested in this position please email the HR Manager Danny Kim at [email protected] or [email protected]. Please state that you are applying for the Children�s textbook writer/editor position
Required (Must forward these items by email)
1. Cover letter & resume
2. Recent Photo (Please send in .jpg format)
3. Your current location and phone number with best time you can be reached
4. References for your previous teaching or writing experience |
2.6million won/180 hours=14.4k/hour |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.worknplay.co.kr/jobseeker/jobSearchView.php?jobNum=160595&start=&page=&search=true&schVal=edit
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Korea Securities Dealers Association (KSDA), English editor
Period: One year (Starting around from mid-August)
Position: editor (English) for the International Affairs and Research Department of the Korean Securities Dealers Association, or KSDA. The contract shall begin at the week of August 11th.
Duties: The position involves the editing and drafting of various documents to support KSDA�s executives, as well as possible research work according to the qualifications and motivations of the candidate. The tasks include writing speeches to be delivered by the executives at international conferences, conducting various correspondences with securities firms/associations abroad, and publishing the KSDA�s annual guide to Korea�s securities markets. The position may require assisting with the general activities of the International Affairs team.
Qualifications: The suitable candidate shall be able 1) to write and edit English competently, and 2) be professional. Previous experience in the financial industry is preferred, but not required.
Basic Terms of Employment: Full-time employment contract
(9:00 � 18:00, M-F)
Compensation: \4,000,000~ \4,200,000/month
Deadline: Monday Aug 11th, 2008
Please send resumes to both of e-mails both of [email protected] and [email protected] ASAP.
* Only qualified candidates will be notified for interviews. |
Wowzers!!!! 4.2 million per month? That's amazing...That comes out to a grand total of ....23k/hour!!! That is SO much better than the job in the OP, right? |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.worknplay.co.kr/jobseeker/jobSearchView.php?jobNum=160153&start=&page=&search=true&schVal=edit
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Career Level Mid Career (2+ years of experience)
Degree Level
Bachelor's Degree
Job Type Regular(Permanent)
Job Status
Full Time
Pay Negotiable [Up to \40.000.000 / Year]
Categories
Education, Training, and Library
Locations
Seoul
Job Description
- Writing and/or editing teaching materials for English
- Work Hours: 9 - 6, Monday through Friday
Job Requirement
- College graduate
- U.S. or Canadian citizens or Koreans educated from elementary school there preferred.
- Writing and editing experience required.
Guidelines for Applicants
- Materials written by the Applicant to be submitted with the Resume
Required Document
Resume / Cover letter / Photo |
Wow!!! 40 million/year? Sign me up...Oh, wait, that's 3.3/month, OR...wait for it...18.3k/hour. |
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