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OneWayTraffic
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeff's Cigarettes wrote: |
| You're not gonna be able to stop a computer savvy 13 year old from viewing porn on the net. netnanny aint gonna help, in fact, it'll encourage him more as making the "stash" more difficult to access will only make it become all the more sweeter. And, as far as I know masturbation is only "natural" if you're perhaps, stranded on a deserted island. I wouldn't rule out a proper azz kicking applied w/ a lecture on morals. Repeat as necessary. Or, if he hasn't figured out how to erase his net traces you could always invite all your relatives over for dinner and open up the history file and show them all what your son has been viewing...might embarrass him into changing his habits. |
This has to be the worse parenting advice ever. What the hell else is a 13 year old supposed to do to relieve his hormones?
It may be possible to block these sites ISP side. A filter applied before it gets to your PC will be harder to circumvent. But I wouldn't recommend that you take it too far and block all porn, which this probably would. And then he could just go to his friends place and use bit torrent, or get a PC room or a Wibro or something.
I have a 2 year old and a 5 year old so it'll be a while before I am in this situation. I'd have to say that you just let the kid be. Have a talk with him, and let him know that everyone uses porn, but there's some sites that you'd rather he didn't see in your house. You're not going to srop him, and trying to out him to relatives will embarrass him, and damage your relationship.
I'd take a monitor, but don't intervene approach. If he knows that you're checking his internet history, but not actually blocking anything then he may be more circumspect. Kids that age will go to extraordinary lengths for porn so there's not much else you can do. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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The trick is not to make it such a taboo that it actually becomes more exciting. Treating it as a dirty, awful thing turns it into a taboo. It's good to point out, for example, that people involved in porn are often driven to do so by money and/or drug addiction (US, anyway). Make it more human and real -- take away the shine of it.
Talking about it (kids hate that... did you like talking about sex with your parents?) will help a lot.
Counseling is a good idea. For that -- have no idea where in Seoul. Maybe Adaptive Solutions has a special counselor for that? Not really sure. |
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Jeff's Cigarettes

Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Talking about it (kids hate that... did you like talking about sex with your parents?) will help a lot. |
Little contradiction there, no? |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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keep the computer in the living room, make a profile for him (not admin) and for the cell phone cancel the internet access and put him on prepay.
All this after having a long talk to him. If the police have been talked to must be some pretty bad porn animal, underage, rape |
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bobranger
Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Location: masan
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for everyone�s advice. I will try a multi approach to this problem. I�m not a Nazi but I do want to know what is going on to assess the extent of the problem. At this point his addiction is centered on the computer and his cell phone (which has been taken away). I really want him to be able to independently control his urges. I also dread the knock on the door from some earl-teens parents threatening to call the police. We already had to move because of this. Anyway thank you. |
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nosmallplans

Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Location: noksapyeong
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| You could just move the computer to a highly public area - like the living room. |
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Juregen
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| nosmallplans wrote: |
| You could just move the computer to a highly public area - like the living room. |
I am supporting this suggestion.
And talk about it!
Nothing is worse then hiding those things. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| bobranger wrote: |
| Thanks for everyone�s advice. I will try a multi approach to this problem. I�m not a Nazi but I do want to know what is going on to assess the extent of the problem. At this point his addiction is centered on the computer and his cell phone (which has been taken away). I really want him to be able to independently control his urges. I also dread the knock on the door from some earl-teens parents threatening to call the police. We already had to move because of this. Anyway thank you. |
Are you sure it is an addiction rather than an temporary affliction?
Maybe a kiddy shrink to deal with it if it really is an addiction. |
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bobranger
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Are you sure it is an addiction rather than an temporary affliction? |
I really don't know. |
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Leonidas

Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Net Nanny or a similar program
Alternatively use a router and configure it to block various sites or keywords including wildcards. |
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KimchiExplosion

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Nowhere near Seoul
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:41 am Post subject: |
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I saw this on TV once. It worked there, but I don't know if it would work in real life. Can't remember the name of the show.
Download a hardcore XXX film, and watch the entire thing, beginning to end, with your son. Tell him if he wants to watch that kind of film, you have to be in the room with him. It'll scare him so sh1tless he won't ever want to watch it again. |
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NoExplode

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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:33 am Post subject: |
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This kid is going to grow up to be one twisted individual if any of these "punishments" suggested here are implemented. Christ, OP, just cut a hole in a watermelon, give it to your kid, let him surf porn you approve of and let him the F*&k be.
You people who are suggesting the spying and seeing shrinks for his "addiction" are 1)disingenuous 2)hypocrites 3)not very bright.
The best use of this thread would be to re-think your religion if you seriously suggest that a 12/13 year old jerking off is some gigantic problem.
I also call BS on any neighbors/ ISP providers knocking on your door. If a neighbor is hacking your connection, he's looking at jail time. ISP's will send you a note in the mail or with your bill. |
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Demophobe

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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| NoExplode wrote: |
You people who are suggesting the spying and seeing shrinks for his "addiction" are 1)disingenuous 2)hypocrites 3)not very bright.
The best use of this thread would be to re-think your religion if you seriously suggest that a 12/13 year old jerking off is some gigantic problem.
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Yes, children discover their sexuality; my son is 12 now and I suspect it has or will all begin for him as well. There are healthier ways to discover this than others though, and that is the situation here.
The body engaging in the entire process of sex is as a drug in many ways: the body's addiction to it primarily, and one must consider the psychological dependencies as well. It is thus extremely hard to quit (interrupt any potentially negatively habitual behavior) if not attended to somehow.
Start with talk.
Ask him to show you what he looks at. Talk about that and give him something to think about. (Yep, you will actually have to do some research...), then make some decisions together. Illustrate the blurring between 'love' and 'sex' in society (sorry, had to mention this point; it may seem far away, but I think it may be central to this idea) Let him decide for himself the implications of that kind of action.
This of course assumes that the whole idea of a 12 year-old looking at the kind of images that are even one click away is to be discouraged, and that is my stance as well.
Those who say it's all good; you probably cannot clearly recall your 12th year, aren't there yet or perhaps don't have children, so it's a 'know' vs. 'know about' kind of thing.  |
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trish91198

Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Location: Jukjeon
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| how do you neighbors know what your child is watching?? |
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Jeff's Cigarettes

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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| He invites their daughters to watch with him. Or he shows it to them w/out warning. I still maintain he needs a good old fashioned azz whooping along w/ a lesson on manners. |
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