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Where do you stand on the political spectrum? |
far-left |
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10% |
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left |
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14% |
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centre-left |
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21% |
[ 10 ] |
centre |
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14% |
[ 7 ] |
centre-right |
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14% |
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right |
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10% |
[ 5 ] |
far right |
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12% |
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Jake.K
Joined: 17 Oct 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:12 am Post subject: Where do you stand politically? |
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Let's just open the pandora's box and find out the political climate of this board.  |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:15 am Post subject: |
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nunya |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: |
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I'm all over the map. Issue for issue, really. |
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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if the left/right dichotomy really fits well. As for me, the closest I'd be is economically conservative and socially liberal. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Tough question...I'd say centrist that leans left, but occassionally goes right as well.
The problem with the question, is if you state you are one, then that means you stand 100% all issues aligned with that 'statement', and then you are put on the defensive for a multitude of things you might feel the opposite about.
Social issues, I am not passionate about many social issues, but it does bother me when people want to RESTRICT things socially....so that might make me a bit liberal with it. On the other hand, some things I wouldn't mind being a bit restricted (easily attainable assault weapons readily and easily available across 1000s of gun shows all across America with zero restriction on who gets them, for example). Case by case basis. As a general rule though, 'let freedom ring'.
Economically though, I tend to lean very conservative. I often get in trouble where most so-called 'economic conservatives' favor massive military spending...and I am strongly in favor of reigning that in significantly as well.
I fall all over the map...I wish drug enforcement would wipe out METH like they did with Qualuudes. Meth is an easy drug to wipe off the face of the planet, and I'm a bit frustrated the U.S. government seems to favor pharmeucitical profits over the health of U.S. communities and families. However, other drugs, I wouldn't mind seeing decriminalizing for drug users.
The list goes on and on. |
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Elric222
Joined: 19 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Centre-left. But the more chavs I see in England, the more right I become. |
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Kimbop

Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Elric222 wrote: |
Centre-left. But the more chavs I see in England, the more right I become. |
Don't you mean "youths" ? Or "immigrants" ? or "proponent of higher taxes" ? or 'striking government employees"?
COnsider me a right-leaning Libertarian! (Wherever THAT falls in your spectrum) Whatever SOuth Park says, that's me! (except for sniffing my own farts, but I don't live in San Fran) |
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sarbonn

Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Left-right only works if you're an American and happen to be a believer in the two political parties. For the rest of the world, the spectrum is 3 dimensional, but most Americans generally do not understand that, nor are they capable of seeing anything but in black and white terms. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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sarbonn wrote: |
Left-right only works if you're an American and happen to be a believer in the two political parties. For the rest of the world, the spectrum is 3 dimensional, but most Americans generally do not understand that, nor are they capable of seeing anything but in black and white terms. |
Did someone teach you to hold this view or did you come up with it on your own?
Just curious, because it sounds like bullshit to me. Then again, I'm American and therefore only see things as being either 'bullshit' or 'not bullshit'. |
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oldtactics

Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that the left/right divide doesn't really apply for most political beliefs. I identify as libertarian which generally results in extremely right-wing fiscal perspectives and extremely left-wing social perspectives, so I don't really identify anywhere on the scale. I find those 'political grid' quizzes fairly accurate, but even those aren't perfect. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Before I can answer, I need to know if this is an American poll, a British poll, or a Swedish poll. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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sarbonn wrote: |
Left-right only works if you're an American and happen to be a believer in the two political parties. For the rest of the world, the spectrum is 3 dimensional, but most Americans generally do not understand that, nor are they capable of seeing anything but in black and white terms. |
right dude. because no one else sees the world in black and white terms (hello Israel and Palestine!).
Nice asinine post. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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sarbonn wrote: |
Left-right only works if you're an American and happen to be a believer in the two political parties. For the rest of the world, the spectrum is 3 dimensional, but most Americans generally do not understand that, nor are they capable of seeing anything but in black and white terms. |
Even is a multiparty system, the spectrum still runs from left to right. Take Canada as an example...
NDP BQ Liberal Conservative
Left to right, and I do not think there are too many PoliSci profs who would dispute my characterization of the parties there.
And yes, there are instances where individuals or factions within parties may buck a general trend. For example, the NDP is left-wing, but a lot of its rural members have opposed tighter gun-control legislation. But that sort of thing happens in the US as well, eg. you've got pro-choice Republicans, anti-abortion Democrats. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:57 am Post subject: |
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sarbonn wrote: |
Left-right only works if you're an American and happen to be a believer in the two political parties. For the rest of the world, the spectrum is 3 dimensional, but most Americans generally do not understand that, nor are they capable of seeing anything but in black and white terms. |
The terminology of the traditional left/right spectrum originated in the early years of the French Revolution. Poli sci books of all of the 19th and most of the 20th Century use the traditional terms. |
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soviet_man

Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Yes precisely. Few people fit in neat boxes.
I ticked "far-left".
I identify with communism, socialism, some aspects of anarchism, anything broadly anti-capitalist is worthy of support.
But really, placing ideologies on a spectrum is a problematic way to measure. |
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