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First taste of hagwon shadiness...

 
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dereklee003



Joined: 03 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:23 am    Post subject: First taste of hagwon shadiness... Reply with quote

I am so frustrated! I had a good offer from a school, and turned it down because I got what i thought was a better offer from another school. They liked me, offered me the job, and then the recruiter emails me and says they now want to change the job to 6 days a week for 3.0 mil

I emailed the recruiter back and said i will not work 6 days a week...im not sure if its a deal breaker, but i would still work for them if it was mon-fri only....do u think they will still offer me the job at the original hours?? Other wise i am back to square one in finding a job....
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had a good offer from a school, and turned it down because I got what i thought was a better offer from another school

You got greedy

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then the recruiter emails me and says they now want to change the job to 6 days a week for 3.0 mil

they got greedy

better get any promises in writing. not really the kind of place you want to start working for, is it?
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PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't really accuse 'dereklee003' of being greedy for taking the better offer. Now if he had orginally accepted the initial offer, but then he reneged on his promise in order to take up the second offer....then yes, that's kind of unethical/greedy.

But he had two offers at the same time, and decided to go with one that was better for him. No greed in that.

Stick to your guns about the 5 day week. Working a 6 day week would be hard, unless you're a workaholic. If the school drops you because of this issue, then it's their fault. It'd be unfortuante but as 'thingscomearoud' said....not the kind of place you'd want to work for.
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Zaria32



Joined: 04 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have trouble seeing how the school asking if you can work 6 days for more money is shady...
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way the OP has worded it, it sounds like they want to force (no choice invovled) him/her to work 6 days a week (for more money). If that is the case, then I'd have to say it doesn't seem right.

Forced overtime is illegal.
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bait and switch is always shady
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's shady because they could have just offered a regular 5 day job, and then offer overtime.

They are not only trying to save on overtime pay, but they are trying to use him as 2 teachers. They will cram many students into one class to make up for this lack of teachers. I have been there, I have experienced it.

Bottom line, get your regular full-time schedule, then if there is more work you will agree to it when it comes. Don't commit to what you don't have to. Make it a win-win situation when the time is right.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zaria32 wrote:
I have trouble seeing how the school asking if you can work 6 days for more money is shady...

They offered the conditions of the job (which the OP originally agreed to), then changed the conditions of the job to something less desirable once the OP turned down his other offers.

Not the first time this has been done. Schools do this knowing you turned down other offers and now you're stuck taking their revised crap offer or remaining unemployed. They count on you caving to do the former to avoid the latter.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, if you want to work for a hagwon, then get the best deal for YOU. Don't accept anything unless it's what you want. Wink

Then, we'll see if the hogwan actually honors the contract. Rolling Eyes
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dereklee003



Joined: 03 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i would be fine if they would have mentioned the six day schedule up front, but they didnt.

I do think the fact that they want me to work 6 days is not shady, just the way they handled it. But it does seem like a good school. I talked to a teacher there who is just finishing up her year contract and she said its all good.....
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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she said its all good


Ask her the same question after she leaves and gets her serverance, flight home, and last month's pay (5 million won at least).

One hagwon had me send them email I sent to potential teachers telling them about the school. I was more surprised at that than the request by the teacher.
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