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The evil penguin



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: American geography Reply with quote

I've just had a discussion with my american co-worker (education degree and MBA) who is insisting that only the northern polar region of the globe is frozen. Apparently, the south pole is hot, which is why australia and africa are such warm places.

Somebody please please PLEASE tell me most americans do NOT believe this...... I've never had much faith in the american education system but... really???
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the ireland



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, it's really warm, the south pole is the purtruding end of an ice-lolly(popsicle) stick and the ice it is stuck in is merely just the popsicle part itself.....the antarctic doesn't officially begin until you get slightly north of cape town Cool Cool
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: American geography Reply with quote

The evil penguin wrote:
I've just had a discussion with my american co-worker (education degree and MBA) who is insisting that only the northern polar region of the globe is frozen. Apparently, the south pole is hot, which is why australia and africa are such warm places.

Somebody please please PLEASE tell me most americans do NOT believe this...... I've never had much faith in the american education system but... really???


You've obviously never read "The Land That Time Forgot."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_That_Time_Forgot_(novel)
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be a misunderstanding. The North Pole is floating ice, the Antarctic is actually land with snow and ice on top of it. If not, that's sad. I'm pretty sure there are American's on Antarctica are there not? Or at least they're there part of the year.
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The evil penguin



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: American geography Reply with quote

[quote="RACETRAITOR
You've obviously never read "The Land That Time Forgot."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_That_Time_Forgot_(novel)[/quote]

Now THAT is a book i need to track down. I was right into the whole jules verne, edgar rice burroghs (spelling?) genre at one time, but never came across this one. Cool.

Holy crap, maybe my co-worker is right!!!
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HapKi



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your co-workers are technically correct. That you doubt them, criticize the entire American education system, and have obviously not done 2 minutes of research says more about you than anyone else.

Antarctica is home to many volcanoes. Many are dormant and some are active. Volcanoes are hot.
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nate2008



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HapKi wrote:
Your co-workers are technically correct. That you doubt them, criticize the entire American education system, and have obviously not done 2 minutes of research says more about you than anyone else.

Antarctica is home to many volcanoes. Many are dormant and some are active. Volcanoes are hot.


No. That's not what the OP said at all, and his co-worker is NOT technically correct.

OP: Your co-worker is an idiot. Sadly, America is full of idiots, though this level of idiocy is surprising.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HapKi wrote:
Your co-workers are technically correct. That you doubt them, criticize the entire American education system, and have obviously not done 2 minutes of research says more about you than anyone else.

Antarctica is home to many volcanoes. Many are dormant and some are active. Volcanoes are hot.


But won't the volcanoes kill all the dinosaurs???
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HapKi



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But won't the volcanoes kill all the dinosaurs???

Possibly. They are where the dinosaurs threw all their virgins.
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HapKi



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No. That's not what the OP said at all, and his co-worker is NOT technically correct.

OP: Your co-worker is an idiot. Sadly, America is full of idiots, though this level of idiocy is surprising.


Listen, Tool. According to the OP, he provides two things his co-worker said. Only the North Pole is frozen, and The South Pole is hot.

I've already addressed the South Pole being hot, as there are many volcanoes in Antarctica. If you want to argue the difference between South Pole and Antarctica, go ahead if that's all you got.

As for only the North Pole is frozen, look at the facts (which nobody has done yet here). The Arctic Circle landmass (and the North Pole ) is floating ice. In Antarctica (and the South Pole) it is ice on top of land. Look at any of the research and it will say that Antarctica is 'covered in ice." Sometimes very very deep ice, but still there's a difference between what it is and what's covering it. The actual Antarctica is bedrock and mountains.

If anyone has something else to add, then add it. I think the American co-worker is correct. And, if not proven correct, he/she (and I) at least provides a very strong case that no one has proven wrong here.
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livinginkunsan



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wiki answers disagrees with ya Hapki

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_it_hot_in_the_south_pole
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HapKi



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wiki answers disagrees with ya Hapki

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_it_hot_in_the_south_pole


I'm not arguing that the surface or air temperature of the South Pole is hot, (which is what your link is about). I'm saying that Antarctica has volcanoes. Some of those volcanoes are dormant or active. Plus the actual land mass of Antarctica and the South Pole is different from the ice that covers it. If all the ice melted, I believe you would still have a 7th continent. You can't say that for the North Pole. That in itself is more fact than what the OP assumes.


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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HapKi wrote:
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No. That's not what the OP said at all, and his co-worker is NOT technically correct.

OP: Your co-worker is an idiot. Sadly, America is full of idiots, though this level of idiocy is surprising.


Listen, Tool. According to the OP, he provides two things his co-worker said. Only the North Pole is frozen, and The South Pole is hot.

I've already addressed the South Pole being hot, as there are many volcanoes in Antarctica. If you want to argue the difference between South Pole and Antarctica, go ahead if that's all you got.

As for only the North Pole is frozen, look at the facts (which nobody has done yet here). The Arctic Circle landmass (and the North Pole ) is floating ice. In Antarctica (and the South Pole) it is ice on top of land. Look at any of the research and it will say that Antarctica is 'covered in ice." Sometimes very very deep ice, but still there's a difference between what it is and what's covering it. The actual Antarctica is bedrock and mountains.

If anyone has something else to add, then add it. I think the American co-worker is correct. And, if not proven correct, he/she (and I) at least provides a very strong case that no one has proven wrong here.


covered in ice = frozen

This is not a battle worth fighting.
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HapKi



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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covered in ice = frozen

This is not a battle worth fighting.


Hey, if you want to lurk on every anti-American thread you come across, that's up to you. I'll decide what battles are worth fighting for myself. (It helps I've got a lot of down time at the moment.)

I agree, though, this is a question of semantics. I did say 'technically', remember? I'll bet it's the same semantics the American co-worker was arguing. That so many people automatically jump on here and call Americans 'idiots' is what really pisses me off.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HapKi wrote:

Hey, if you want to lurk on every anti-American thread you come across, that's up to you. I'll decide what battles are worth fighting for myself. (It helps I've got a lot of down time at the moment.)

I agree, though, this is a question of semantics. I did say 'technically', remember? I'll bet it's the same semantics the American co-worker was arguing. That so many people automatically jump on here and call Americans 'idiots' is what really pisses me off.


It would really be a lot smarter to defend the American education system by pointing out that not all Americans think Antarctica is not frozen, rather than trying to figure out how that moronic statement could be correct. Every country has morons; you shouldn't be ashamed of each and every one, or you'll end up looking like those Koreans who can't take any criticism of their own country.
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