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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: They drink corporate water! Reply with quote

A very amusing video of the end of an "occupation" at NYU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q6KAg6qEGY

My favorite moments involve the discussion of "we need to figure out the power structures" and "who can be the facilitator". But the very best part is when he is taking an inventory of their stuff in the event that it gets taken. "ok, we have a mac book (x3), an iPod, etc" Oh lefties..

Read the comments. Awesome.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mises,

I think you fail to realize real heavyweights who support this movement.

And this movement is very important.

NYTimes wrote:
The N.Y.U. students created a Web site (takebacknyu.com) where they published their demands, including thorough annual reporting of the university�s operating budget, expenditures and endowment. They also want the university to provide 13 scholarships a year to students from the Gaza Strip and give surplus supplies to the Islamic University of Gaza.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Egg on my face (thrown by Noam).

I don't think they actually had a solid motive or cause. Lots of screaming about democracy and leftist platitudes. Poor kids are trying to apply the ideas they "studied" in sociology class (+macbooks, skinny jeans and American Apparel t-shirts).
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

N.-Chomsky-backed-revolution-in-the-cafeteria. Typical. "What is the hierarchy?" "Use of force!" "Demands!" "He touched me!" "We are using 'consensus process' on whether we are going to provide ID." "We have to decide." "Who wants to the be the facilitator? We have some markers, tape, and a MacBook with a power cord..."

This is what academics are creating in undergrad education. "Don't Taser Me, 'Bro! Part II"

You cannot resort to unilateral use of force and call what you are doing "democracy," especially when you are disregarding the university's democratic, representative, constitutionally-arrived at decision-making institutions (faculty and student govts, for example, board of regents and links with state govts, for another). And if you do, please do so professionally and plan your op. "Amateur" does these bozos too much justice...
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wesharris



Joined: 10 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alrighty then.
One word, with a completely different emphasis.
MO(E) RO(AHN)N 's.
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Wes
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, new drinking game. Watch this video and each time the little brat says "consensus" you have to take a shot. It's guaranteed to get you drunk.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was that d-bag even talking about? What is the story behind it anyway?
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
What was that d-bag even talking about? What is the story behind it anyway?


He was talking about consensus, doing things democratically, and that he has it all on tape. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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llj2kll



Joined: 23 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the video
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wesharris



Joined: 10 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number 98 99 and one hundred, yay.
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wesharris



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

99
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wesharris



Joined: 10 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah
that's it baby.
Yeah.
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Wes
BEAT THAT MONEY BEAT THAT MONEY
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:


I think you fail to realize real heavyweights who support this movement.


That's a nasty argument between the Marxist-Leninist and the Anarcho-Syndicalist in the comments section, isn't it?

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You all need to read the comments on the video at youtube.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You saw this, too, right? "Rich white dudes..."

A disruption for democracy, an occupation for all!

You are aware that the YouTube comments you refer to notwithstanding, Mises, these students, their views and their vocabulary, and their methods, all reflect humanities and liberal arts professors' teachings and politics, to the letter, "corporate water" and all?

Also, if I were Macintosh, I do not know whether I would consider such publicity as this good or bad. For one thing, it confirms its hold over this market. For another thing, it would seem to confine it to this market as well, even if, ironically, rich, white dudes seem to gather all the profits from these students' purchases of their products, including the iPods...
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