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[wayfarer]

In response to another poll, this poll is directed specifically at foreign teachers who have a sanctimonious attitude regarding other E2 visa holders who are illegally tutoring Koreans in English.

It's well understood that teaching privates on an E2 visa is illegal and that if you do it you should be ready to accept the consequences.

I'm just wondering how serious you are in your disapproval and condemnation of those who are doing it.

So: if you had an acquaintance who was teaching privates, perhaps a friend of a friend, would you attempt to assist the Ministry of Justice in the apprehension of this individual? If not, why not?

[sarbonn]

If you get the people to respond you asked to respond, then your results should be pretty well skewed towards the hostile side. Basically, you're asking anyone with a sanctimonious attitude towards E2 visa holders that are illegally teaching to respond as to whether or not they would report them.

[pidgin]

For the record I'm on an F-2. And also for the record the day I would report anyone in any country for tutoring, is the same day I would top myself off!!...preferably with a protractor in the brain and a number 2 pencil in the throat.

It'd be technically illegal in the West too you know!...under the tax man's table and all.

If one started reporting westerners for tutoring, why not koreans and others as well? Descipicable behavior in any way shape or form. Save your reports for crimes that harm others directly!

[cruisemonkey]

I would never 'rat' on anyone. However, when they are caught, I will laugh at them on the way to the airport.

[wayfarer]

[cruisemonkey]

[crosbystillsstash]

I would report them.

[Milwaukiedave]

No, but if they got caught, I'd have very little sympathy for them. I'm sure there are plenty of Koreans out there that would salivate at the chance to turn a foreigner in.

[Cerriowen]

I think it's perfectly acceptable for the govt to enforce their laws against tutoring, including jailing/deportation/fines.

I also think that's their problem, not mine.

I don't think it really hurts anyone (besides the govt's taxes), so I wouldn't report it. If the teacher wants to try their luck and do privates, it's not my problem, or obligation to report it

[Teelo]

One day, back in year two at primary school, I copied my homework off another kid. This other kid found out, but decided not to 'rat' on me.
Since then, I've known that if I were to 'rat' on anyone, it would only increase the guilt on my part.




Well okay I'm making stuff up, but you get the idea. I've done things I'm not proud of, and not been ratted on, so I return the favour...

[wayfarer]

[BS.Dos.]

There was a similar poll a month or so ago. The number of FTs who'd happily turn-in/grass/snitch on others was truely disgusting.

I don't care what your reasons are, you're a bunch of tossers and you know you are.

[johnny_larue]

I would never rat one someone doing privates, however like many here I would have little sympathy for those who did get caught. As silly as the rule banning private lessons is, those of us E2 visa holders did agree to not do private lessons while we are here as guests of Korea.

I would like to say that the people who would turn in those doing private lessons truly are scum. It's not as though those who are doing these lessons are doing something immoral and harmful. So don't take a haughty attitude towards those doing privates.

[Chuvok]

Years ago when I was a student, I shared an apartment with a Chinese woman during a semester abroad program. The Chinese woman was a vicious opportunist and had nasty words about everyone behind their backs, while smiling and being friendly to their faces.

She told me she was engaged to a man in Canada and was planning to move to Montreal once she was granted a fiancee visa. Of course, as a Canadian myself, I was happy for her and helped her a lot with different questions about Canada, immigration forms, and even started to teach her a bit of French, seeing as she was moving to Montreal. Keep in mind, I was a kid, and she was at least 10 years older than me at the time. I was being polite and had no interest in her at all, romantically.

One evening after too much wine, she told me all about how she met her fiance on a cruise in Turkey, and they had been e-mailing each other for years, and he had gone with her back to China to visit her family, and so on and on. She then went on to tell me how he had started to cry in front of her parents, like a wimpy little girl. I was a bit shocked! Not such nice words about your future husband. As she got more drunk, she told me he was a loser and she was just marrying him to go to Canada.

Well, I like to think of myself as a 'live and let live' kind of guy, but when I heard she just wanted to take advantage of my country that way... Well, wasn't going to let it pass.

She had mentioned her fiance's name a bunch of times, and I knew exactly where he lived in Montreal and where he worked.

.... Here is where it gets bad ....

I went on the internet, looked up the Quebec immigration website and found an e-mail address of the department head of the Montreal office. I sent an anonymous e-mail, with names, ages, and addresses of the Chinese woman and the guy in Montreal. I wrote that I had overheard her saying the planned marriage was a fraud and she was attempting to immigrate via marriage.

A few months later, after I had returned home, I received an e-mail from the Chinese woman saying she was in Canada, but she had just been denied an extension on her visa, because she failed to convince the authorities about her motives for marriage, during an immigration interview. She wrote that the authorities had received a tip and opened an investigation. Her fiance flaked out on her. And she had to leave Canada.

Now, remember I was much younger than this woman. She wrote asking if I had been interested in her and if I'd like to marry her....

I never replied to her following e-mails, and can only assume she left Canada, or went underground and lives in Montreal China town.



So, my point for telling this is, yes, I suppose I would rat someone out, if they aren't a good person.

[KoreanAmbition]

If my mother were teaching privates, I'd even rat her out.




Just so I could steal the privates and teach them myself.