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camaroclow



Joined: 10 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Renewal CBC? Reply with quote

I am extending my contract for 3 months at the end of March. Will I need a new medical check and a new CBC to complete this. My director has called immigration on different occassions and heard different answers. Will it basically be a roll of the dice as to what office/person I go to? I teach very close to Konkuk University if anyone can comment on a visit to the immigration office closest to this school.

I have not left the country since I have been in Korea. Wouldn't it make sense that they could do a background check for this country then deduce that I have no record as I didn't have one arriving and have not left. If only...

Thanks for any help.


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icnelly



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there one simple answer??? Reply with quote

camaroclow wrote:
Wouldn't it make sense that they could do a background check for this country then deduce that I have no record as I didn't have one arriving and have not left. If only...


How long have you lived here? Do you have a PhD? Is Michaelambling your friend? Wink

If your documents are older than 6 months, you might as well get new ones.

I just extended my contract until July. I got different answers from immi., so I just made sure to have everything needed: Notarized and apostilled CBC, and recent health check (done at a Korean general hospital).
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buymybook



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I am extending my contract for 3 months at the end of March. Will I need a new medical check and a new CBC to complete this. My director has called immigration on different occassions and heard different answers."

If you will have been with them for only 1 year, then...No, you will not need to do that. Your Director sounds like a Dor*. But then again maybe it is Immigration?

Go to Immi with your Director , have him/her take all the documents that they could imagine they'd need(minus any CBC or health check) and it should be a breeze. You could do it for up to 2 years total at the same place(I think) but that's it.

Have your Director call the man at immi 02-2650-6217
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icnelly



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buymybook wrote:
have him/her take all the documents that they could imagine they'd need(minus any CBC or health check) and it should be a breeze. You could do it for up to 2 years total at the same place(I think) but that's it.

Have your Director call the man at immi 02-2650-6217


Why a magical limit of 2 years? Have you personally done this?

Camaroclow, you're asking for trouble if you follow this ill wrought advice.
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buymybook



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

icnelly wrote:
buymybook wrote:
have him/her take all the documents that they could imagine they'd need(minus any CBC or health check) and it should be a breeze. You could do it for up to 2 years total at the same place(I think) but that's it.

Have your Director call the man at immi 02-2650-6217


Why a magical limit of 2 years? Have you personally done this?

Camaroclow, you're asking for trouble if you follow this ill wrought advice.


Yes, I'm sorry "Camaroclow." Don't have your Director call the number because "icnelly" said it's wrought advice.
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icnelly



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buymybook wrote:
Yes, I'm sorry "Camaroclow." Don't have your Director call the number because "icnelly" said it's wrought advice.


By any chance did you read this part:

Quote:
My director has called immigration on different occassions and heard different answers.


or this:

Quote:
I got different answers from immi.


Now, care to answer my questions....nah probably not, right?
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buymybook



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

icnelly wrote:
buymybook wrote:
Yes, I'm sorry "Camaroclow." Don't have your Director call the number because "icnelly" said it's wrought advice.


By any chance did you read this part:

Quote:
My director has called immigration on different occassions and heard different answers.


or this:

Quote:
I got different answers from immi.


Now, care to answer my questions....nah probably not, right?


I said "I think," that = opinion not exactly "advice" as you called it so before you call my "advice wrought," don't you think you should consider my entire post, thou shalt treat others aye?
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Robot_Teacher



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess the thread title could be better so the experts would know to come here and place an informative correct answer.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: Is there one simple answer??? Reply with quote

camaroclow wrote:
I am extending my contract for 3 months at the end of March. Will I need a new medical check and a new CBC to complete this. My director has called immigration on different occassions and heard different answers. Will it basically be a roll of the dice as to what office/person I go to? I teach very close to Konkuk University if anyone can comment on a visit to the immigration office closest to this school.

I have not left the country since I have been in Korea. Wouldn't it make sense that they could do a background check for this country then deduce that I have no record as I didn't have one arriving and have not left. If only...

Thanks for any help.



If you are on an E2 visa and have previoiusly filed your CBC and health check, then you do NOT need to provide them again to extend or renew your contract with the same employer.

You will need all the other usual documents.

You can extend for up to 1 year at a time.


Somewhere, someone at Immigration should be able to tell you this.
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icnelly



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there one simple answer??? Reply with quote

camaroclow wrote:
I am extending my contract for 3 months at the end of March. Will I need a new medical check and a new CBC to complete this. My director has called immigration on different occassions and heard different answers. Will it basically be a roll of the dice as to what office/person I go to? I teach very close to Konkuk University if anyone can comment on a visit to the immigration office closest to this school.

I have not left the country since I have been in Korea. Wouldn't it make sense that they could do a background check for this country then deduce that I have no record as I didn't have one arriving and have not left. If only...

Thanks for any help.


ontheway wrote:
If you are on an E2 visa and have previoiusly filed your CBC and health check, then you do NOT need to provide them again to extend or renew your contract with the same employer.


Where did you get this information? Have you done this personally? If so, when?

Check this extension of stay description from the immigration website.

I would love to find out that immigration is indexing our paperwork for future reference! If anyone has more than opinions/advice, please post.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Is there one simple answer??? Reply with quote

icnelly wrote:
camaroclow wrote:
I am extending my contract for 3 months at the end of March. Will I need a new medical check and a new CBC to complete this. My director has called immigration on different occassions and heard different answers. Will it basically be a roll of the dice as to what office/person I go to? I teach very close to Konkuk University if anyone can comment on a visit to the immigration office closest to this school.

I have not left the country since I have been in Korea. Wouldn't it make sense that they could do a background check for this country then deduce that I have no record as I didn't have one arriving and have not left. If only...

Thanks for any help.


ontheway wrote:
If you are on an E2 visa and have previoiusly filed your CBC and health check, then you do NOT need to provide them again to extend or renew your contract with the same employer.


Where did you get this information? Have you done this personally? If so, when?

Check this extension of stay description from the immigration website.

I would love to find out that immigration is indexing our paperwork for future reference! If anyone has more than opinions/advice, please post.






The new rules requiring a CBC and health check originally went into effect in December of 2007. They were subsequently changed to begin in March of 2008.

As a result, almost all renewing teachers between April 2008 and now would have no previous CBC on file.

The Immigration rules you have referenced were posted in July of 2008 and would have applied to all those renewing teachers who had not previously been required to have a CBC or health check.

Nearly all teachers renewing from this point forward would have had a CBC and health check done for the visa being renewed. Immigration has told our school that teachers renewing their visa, and in some cases, teachers transfering a visa from another school will not need a new CBC or health check if they have not returned home during their stay.

One teacher that I know of has just received a new visa under these rules without a CBC.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway,

I don't doubt that what you say is true. However, in K-land, official Immi policy and anecdotal evidence mean nothing... zero, zippo, goose egg, nada.

Immi officers, embassies and consulates make their own 'rules' depending on whether or not the Kimberly got laid the night before. This is a difficult concept for most 'westerners' to grasp... and should always be taken into account when dealing with K-eauracacy. Always assume the worst possible scenario... assemble every conceivable document - as well as your parents' marriage certificate - and have them apostilled/stamped/signed/sealed/notarized and verified (after you piss on them and let it dry... the K will have this reaction - "Owooooo.... it smells like home"). Wink
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
"Immi officers, embassies and consulates make their own 'rules' depending on ..."

"This is a difficult concept for most 'westerners' to grasp... and should always be taken into account when dealing with K-eauracacy. Always assume the worst possible scenario ..."



Of course this is always true, so I don't post this after every post.


Dave should include this in his masthead.




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Warning: Immigration officers, embassies and consulates make their own rules depending on a variety of conditions and factors. This is a difficult concept for most westerners to grasp and should always be taken into account when dealing with the K-rok-racy. Always assume the worst possible scenario.
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icnelly



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there one simple answer??? Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
icnelly wrote:
camaroclow wrote:
I am extending my contract for 3 months at the end of March. Will I need a new medical check and a new CBC to complete this. My director has called immigration on different occassions and heard different answers. Will it basically be a roll of the dice as to what office/person I go to? I teach very close to Konkuk University if anyone can comment on a visit to the immigration office closest to this school.

I have not left the country since I have been in Korea. Wouldn't it make sense that they could do a background check for this country then deduce that I have no record as I didn't have one arriving and have not left. If only...

Thanks for any help.


ontheway wrote:
If you are on an E2 visa and have previoiusly filed your CBC and health check, then you do NOT need to provide them again to extend or renew your contract with the same employer.


Where did you get this information? Have you done this personally? If so, when?

Check this extension of stay description from the immigration website.

I would love to find out that immigration is indexing our paperwork for future reference! If anyone has more than opinions/advice, please post.






The new rules requiring a CBC and health check originally went into effect in December of 2007. They were subsequently changed to begin in March of 2008.

As a result, almost all renewing teachers between April 2008 and now would have no previous CBC on file.

The Immigration rules you have referenced were posted in July of 2008 and would have applied to all those renewing teachers who had not previously been required to have a CBC or health check.

Nearly all teachers renewing from this point forward would have had a CBC and health check done for the visa being renewed. Immigration has told our school that teachers renewing their visa, and in some cases, teachers transfering a visa from another school will not need a new CBC or health check if they have not returned home during their stay.

One teacher that I know of has just received a new visa under these rules without a CBC.


Interesting and thanks for posting again!
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