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mistermasan · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

which version of the US? lincoln killed off the version washington fought for. ah yes, using a military draft (forced servitude) to end slavery (forced servitude). followed by another version with the creation of federal income tax. and another when the US went off the gold standard.

the present day US version has been bankrupt and running on fumes for a long time.

the end of the US? not yet, but another, newer (and worse) version is right around the corner with the govt setting limits on how much you can earn and govt seizing businesses.

blurgalurgalurga · Joined: 18 Oct 2007

harlowethrombey · Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul

Robot_Teacher · Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Location: Robotting Around the World

Was chattin with my mom on the phone and she said several states are going to attempt to split off as indepedent countries. She mentioned California and Texas. I don't listen to those radio talk shows she does, but what she says is unsettling to say the least.

I don't know what to make of it all other than there are big takers who are not moving and shaking much profitability and jobs for the country. Non-performing leaders with a populace that's been complacent for too long is my explaination. Also, while America has freedom of speech, who's listening?

mole · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Act III

blurgalurgalurga · Joined: 18 Oct 2007

I guess the stampede would head to the same place it is now--the US border. If you are south of that border, look out!

mole · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Act III

blurgalurgalurga · Joined: 18 Oct 2007

Well, i was jokingly suggesting that Texas couldn't exist for long, indepedent of the US, and that it would become a new state of Mexico. I was kidding around though... I figure Texas could survive as a country, probably.
Anyway; if Texas did secede, how would it be different--economically, politically or socially--from how it is now? Obviously there would be some changes, but what do you think they would be?

mole · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Act III

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

mole · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Act III

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mises · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired

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blurgalurgalurga · Joined: 18 Oct 2007

Hey that map made the same prediction I did about the Republic of Texas--under Mexican influence, or a state of Mexico.

Personally, I think the Russian who wrote that thing up is either barking mad or having a bit of a chuckle. The US will stay geographically much as it is now, for better or for worse. Even though there are lots of people in pretty much every region who would like independence, they're far from a majority, I'm pretty sure. And even if they were a majority, they'd not be allowed to leave. It didn't fly in the 1860s and it won't fly now. There'd be war.

Greater states' rights, a withdrawl from the current level of international involvement, an increase in the number of small religious or political factions who leave the cities and hide out in rural enclaves, marrying their cousins or whatever--sure, all those things are altogether possible. But full secession from the Union? I really don't think so. Not enough people want it.

Hell, even in Russia, the Chechens couldn't pull that off, and Russia was shattered after the fall of the Soviet. I really don't see a collapse of that magnitude in Washington's near future.

Fun to think about, though. I remember reading a comic book back in the 90s with the breakup of the US as a central premise...Frank Miller's Give Me Liberty, it was called. One of the new countries that emerged after the breakup of the US was a nation of gay nazis who called themselves the Aryan Thrust. There was a feminist country as well, and a corporation-run one, and I think there was a black nation too ...anyway, it was all pretty absurd, but a reasonably entertaining comic book.