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xpat
Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Location: Kangnam baby
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swigs

Joined: 20 Apr 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, i saw that commercial.
I think just comparing hardware to hardware does not make since. The amount of other features that Apple gives is well worth over 300 dollars, IMO.
It's nice not to have to worry that much about viruses that try and take over the world at this point too.
Macs are well worth the extra cost, otherwise they wouldn't be doing so well. I don't have many friends who have used the same windows based machine for over 3 years, all while upgrading the OS when new versions came out. That's unheard of in the Windows world, and one of the reasons Vista is considered a failure. |
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xpat
Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Location: Kangnam baby
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Many experts repeatedly warn that all operating systems are susceptible to viruses, and as the Mac becomes more popular OS X will inevitably become a bigger target for malicious attacks.
Regardless, many Mac users don't bother to purchase the memory sucking software that ties up their Windows counterparts. That may change in the event of a widespread attack, but for the moment Mac users aren't buying. |
http://www.pcworld.com/article/154850/will_mac_become_a_virus_trap.html |
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| Now if she takes Windows off that sucker and installs a good linux build she'll be set. |
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Demophobe

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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| Now if she takes Windows off that sucker and installs a good linux build she'll be set. |
And if the linux lamers every did anything collectively (open-source = like-minded individuals), they could fund an ad that says just that! It would be funny as all! |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Hit 'em where it hurts: Price.
There is no reason why a MAC needs to be so expensive. Especially in this economy. MAC deserves it. |
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swigs

Joined: 20 Apr 2008
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Many experts repeatedly warn that all operating systems are susceptible to viruses, and as the Mac becomes more popular OS X will inevitably become a bigger target for malicious attacks.
Regardless, many Mac users don't bother to purchase the memory sucking software that ties up their Windows counterparts. That may change in the event of a widespread attack, but for the moment Mac users aren't buying. |
http://www.pcworld.com/article/154850/will_mac_become_a_virus_trap.html |
I was referring to the latest international virus that was only built to attack Windows. If you did a ratio between Mac and Windows viruses, it would still be close to nothing. Does not mean it will happen in the future, but I don't think Ukrainians know what Macs are at this point. But when they do, we'll be in trouble... |
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swigs

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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Hit 'em where it hurts: Price.
There is no reason why a MAC needs to be so expensive. Especially in this economy. MAC deserves it. |
I have a three year old mac that runs the CS3 suite, final cut pro, and other professional apps (all at the same time when needed). This three year old mac was bought for only 1000 dollars.
You get more quality with Mac, imo, hardware specs don't tell the whole story. With windows your more likely to have programs that eat up your computing resources in the background, among other negative things... And when windows upgrades their OS your expected to upgrade your hardware...
Windows is cool, just not for my needs, because I actually feel that Mac is the cheaper option of the two in the long run.
If you have bought two 800 dollar computers in the last three years, that's 600 more than what I spent.
Edit: Although with the exchange rate right now, buying anything Western would be expensive. So I would not buy a new computer right now if I could wait for a better exchange rate, or until I got a job paying in USD. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| swigs wrote: |
| You get more quality with Mac, imo, hardware specs don't tell the whole story. With windows your more likely to have programs that eat up your computing resources in the background, among other negative things... And when windows upgrades their OS your expected to upgrade your hardware... |
Naw, that's a load of shit and deep down you know it.
Maybe hardware specs don't tell the whole story, but they tell 95% of it for anybody who really uses a computer. I might have more programs that eat computing resources, but that's because I have more programs I can use and I have few limitations on resources so who cares? Hell, even rendering video and playing with Photoshop doesn't top out my CPUs or RAM.
And when windows upgrades their OS you don't need to upgrade your hardware unless you're using something low end -- I made the switch from XP to Vista with no necessary changes in hardware. Even my aging machine isn't bogged down because whenever it gets on the verge of being so I can pop in more ram or hard drives or a different video card or whatever. Try putting 24 gigs of ram into your machine, or running eight internal hard drives. Try running down to any computer store and getting a new video card, or lan card, or sound card, or whatever, and popping it in.
So you have a three-old mac that runs CS3, final cut, and a few other things and it cost a thousand. Granted, my 3 year-old machine was more than that when I bought it, but I run CS3 with Photoshop and Premiere at the same time as a dozen other apps with both monitors handling all intensive graphics with no flicker or slow down, and all work files (and some apps) running from different drives so no lag there, either. But if we're really talking costs, I got a new computer for a friend for 600,000 that runs everything and will continue to do so for the next 3 or 4 years with no problems.
Naw, macs are okay for people who like to pretend that they know something about computers, or people who do just a few specific things, but the range and | | |