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sobriquet
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| I would have demanded my ticket be refunded. The guy sounds ripe for sectioning. |
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mises
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Musicians can be eccentric. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Poland: the Korea of Europe. |
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RJjr
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Why would Iran fire missiles at Scandanavia?
And what threat does Iran pose to Poland? |
Perhaps a visual aid might clear things up. |
That still doesn't explain what motive Iran would have to shoot missiles into Europe. Why would they do that? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| RJjr wrote: |
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Why would Iran fire missiles at Scandanavia?
And what threat does Iran pose to Poland? |
Perhaps a visual aid might clear things up. |
That still doesn't explain what motive Iran would have to shoot missiles into Europe. Why would they do that? |
Are you serious?
What motive did Hitler have for invading the Sudetenland?
What motive did Genghis Khan have for marching into Northern China?
What motive did Richard the Lionheart have for marching to the Holy Land?
What motive did the United States have in sending troops to the Phillipines?
What motive did Stalin have for invading Finland?
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Its called a deterrent. Thats what militaries do. They keep the peace by preventing attacks. Its a much better plan than deterrent via pre-emptive strike. |
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ManintheMiddle
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Kuros:
You're entirely too accommodating of RJjr; even if he could grasp the obvious, he'd find a reason to reject it.
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| Free speech is all well and good just so long as people only say nice things about the US. |
You missed the point, as usual. Had an American pianist done the same in Warsaw, I'm sure you'd be the first to cry foul. It was inappropriate to the setting, destroying the artistic ambience, and just plain rude and tactless. If he was hankering to let off some steam, he could have held a press conference after the performance. I love Chopin and most Poles (read Michener's account of their travails; they also sent a brave contingent to Iraq and those I've met in Chicago and Milwaukee are so down-to-earth), but if I'd been in attendance I would have been one of those who walked out. Shameful stuff but then Leftists aren't usually known for having much class. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Kuros:
You're entirely too accommodating of RJjr; even if he could grasp the obvious, he'd find a reason to reject it.
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| Free speech is all well and good just so long as people only say nice things about the US. |
You missed the point, as usual. Had an American pianist done the same in Warsaw, I'm sure you'd be the first to cry foul.
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No, I'd never be that childish nor insecure for that matter. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| blade wrote: |
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Kuros:
You're entirely too accommodating of RJjr; even if he could grasp the obvious, he'd find a reason to reject it.
blade sideswiped:
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| Free speech is all well and good just so long as people only say nice things about the US. |
You missed the point, as usual. Had an American pianist done the same in Warsaw, I'm sure you'd be the first to cry foul.
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No, I'd never be that childish nor insecure for that matter. |
Berating your paying audience because they share the same nationality as the gov't that held up your piano at customs or that is putting missiles in your country IS being childish or insecure.
At a certain point you set politics aside and call a spoiled child a spoiled child. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Kuros:
You're entirely too accommodating of RJjr; even if he could grasp the obvious, he'd find a reason to reject it. |
Two things are obvious:
- America's economic problems are too enormous at this point to finance defense projects to protect Europe against hypothetical threats. If the Europeans are as scared as you are, they need to finance their own shield with their own money. America is broke. Our government doesn't need to look for more ways to borrow and spend.
- Our high dollar, high tech Air Force was outperformed by 19 assclowns in 4 unarmed jumbo jets on 9/11. It's not like we've gone from being unable to protect the Pentagon to suddenly being able to handle broader objectives like protecting Poland, all while struggling in Afghanistan and Iraq. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Are you serious?
What motive did Hitler have for invading the Sudetenland?
What motive did Genghis Khan have for marching into Northern China?
What motive did Richard the Lionheart have for marching to the Holy Land?
What motive did the United States have in sending troops to the Phillipines?
What motive did Stalin have for invading Finland?
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Its called a deterrent. Thats what militaries do. They keep the peace by preventing attacks. Its a much better plan than deterrent via pre-emptive strike. |
What motive did the Soviets have for putting missiles in Cuba? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| RJjr wrote: |
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Are you serious?
What motive did Hitler have for invading the Sudetenland?
What motive did Genghis Khan have for marching into Northern China?
What motive did Richard the Lionheart have for marching to the Holy Land?
What motive did the United States have in sending troops to the Phillipines?
What motive did Stalin have for invading Finland?
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Its called a deterrent. Thats what militaries do. They keep the peace by preventing attacks. Its a much better plan than deterrent via pre-emptive strike. |
What motive did the Soviets have for putting missiles in Cuba? |
Deterrent for American missiles in Turkey? It was only Castro who wanted a nuclear war. Happily the Soviets had a little more than a Banana Republic to defend. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| What motive did the Soviets have for putting missiles in Cuba? |
I trust you have read the declassified Soviet papers on this and know. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
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| What motive did the Soviets have for putting missiles in Cuba? |
I trust you have read the declassified Soviet papers on this and know. |
No, and don't expect me to say I have. I'm not the one that pretends to have read things I haven't.  |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Confrontational ignorance. Nice combination.
You attempt to forge and then wield a rhetorical question has utterly failed here, RJjr. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| What do the Soviet archives reveal? |
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