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North Korea - more talk - actions to follow?
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okokok



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nuthatch wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
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I have read numerous articles on the DPRK and their capabilities... and not once have they ever detonated a bomb that is capable of destroying Seoul. Their tests have been estimated to be between 2 to 6 kilotons -that would not be enough to destroy Seoul.


Well I read a day or two ago that it was either equivalent or more than than what was dropped on Japan at the end of WWII


I heard this too. I also think I heard that they have no way to deliver it even to Seoul except dropping it from a plane which could prove to be rather difficult.
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nuthatch



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

captain corea...you sound like someone who is living on an army base

tiger fancini,

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KJI, however crazy he may be, is probably surrounded by guys/henchmen who don't want to die. They are probably astute enough to realise that any aggressive action against Seoul would result in their immediate deaths.


I tend to think differently...after seeing this clip below...they all look like puppets caught in a totalitarian alienation similar to Hitler's:
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/north-koreas-subdued-celebrations/?ref=asia
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nuthatch



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okokok wrote:
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I heard this too. I also think I heard that they have no way to deliver it even to Seoul except dropping it from a plane which could prove to be rather difficult.


I think the recent test of 6 MISSILES says a lot of their capabilities...especially if they want to TEST one in southern direction....
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nuthatch wrote:
captain corea...you sound like someone who is living on an army base

tiger fancini,

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KJI, however crazy he may be, is probably surrounded by guys/henchmen who don't want to die. They are probably astute enough to realise that any aggressive action against Seoul would result in their immediate deaths.


I tend to think differently...after seeing this clip below...they all look like puppets caught in a totalitarian alienation similar to Hitler's:
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/north-koreas-subdued-celebrations/?ref=asia


They look like they are crapping themselves. And rightly so. I'm sure Hitlers guys were planning on surrendering before he off'ed himself...?
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nuthatch



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

possibly
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Adjumas Cheekbones



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
nuthatch wrote:
captain corea...you sound like someone who is living on an army base

tiger fancini,

Quote:
KJI, however crazy he may be, is probably surrounded by guys/henchmen who don't want to die. They are probably astute enough to realise that any aggressive action against Seoul would result in their immediate deaths.


I tend to think differently...after seeing this clip below...they all look like puppets caught in a totalitarian alienation similar to Hitler's:
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/north-koreas-subdued-celebrations/?ref=asia



They look like they are crapping themselves. And rightly so. I'm sure Hitlers guys were planning on surrendering before he off'ed himself...?


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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nuthatch wrote:
captain corea...you sound like someone who is living on an army base


No, I'm not, nor have I ever served.

What does that have to do with the topic at hand?

You've stated that -

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one might want to think of one's ticket outta there:


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Seoul is just 35 miles away

according to what I have read THEY CAN DO IT

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see previous posts

on articles from The New York TImes

about missiles they have successfully launched

bombs they have successfuly detonated


So I'm asking you
-How can you be so sure that North Korea has the capability to destroy Seoul by launching a Nuclear attack?
1. They have yet to test a bomb capable of destroying Seoul
2. They have yet to launch a missile capable to carrying a traditional nuclear device.
3. They have yet to miniturize their technology so as to allow them to launch said missile.

So, have you actually done any reading other than the NY Times, or are you just planning to continue to quote a newspaper for your 'facts'?
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Adjumas Cheekbones



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
nuthatch wrote:
captain corea...you sound like someone who is living on an army base


No, I'm not, nor have I ever served.

What does that have to do with the topic at hand?

You've stated that -

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one might want to think of one's ticket outta there:


Quote:
Seoul is just 35 miles away

according to what I have read THEY CAN DO IT

Quote:
see previous posts

on articles from The New York TImes

about missiles they have successfully launched

bombs they have successfuly detonated


So I'm asking you
-How can you be so sure that North Korea has the capability to destroy Seoul by launching a Nuclear attack?
1. They have yet to test a bomb capable of destroying Seoul
2. They have yet to launch a missile capable to carrying a traditional nuclear device.
3. They have yet to miniturize their technology so as to allow them to launch said missile.

So, have you actually done any reading other than the NY Times, or are you just planning to continue to quote a newspaper for your 'facts'?


some people would like conflict just to add colour to their dreary mundane little lives and a story to tell people back home = nuthatch
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nuthatch



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nothing is black and white

I have not seen you cite anything...nor would I probably want to read it ...nor do I care that you never cited anything

you might want to read some of the reports in the last week...yes, from the New York Times which has articulate reporters

I have already stated why to all your questions above

and I am not in a courtroom defining things in black and white trying to defend myself

this is a discussion forum

so relax captain corea

amen
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nuthatch



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adjumas Cheekbones

this forum can do without your personal attack

if you disagree, offer something articulate
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nuthatch wrote:
nothing is black and white

I have not seen you cite anything...nor would I probably want to read it ...nor do I care that you never cited anything

you might want to read some of the reports in the last week...yes, from the New York Times which has articulate reporters

I have already stated why to all your questions above

and I am not in a courtroom defining things in black and white trying to defend myself

this is a discussion forum

so relax captain corea

amen


You're hear trying to incite panic - telling people that they should be buying tickets home.

And as soon as you're called on your shite... you change the subject or resort to off-handed comments.

Here are some facts for you:

North Korea has never demonstrated the ability to detonate a nuclear device capable to destroying Seoul.

North Korea has never demonstrated the capability of delivering a nuclear weapon.

North Korea has yet to demonstrate any ability in miniaturization that would be needed to put a nuclear warhead on a missile.

North Korea has over the past few decades stated that the armistice is finished.


I read the NY Times everyday... but I'm not dumb enough to take it as gospel.


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Iamronin11



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nuthatch wrote:
Adjumas Cheekbones

this forum can do without your personal attack

if you disagree, offer something articulate



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The good news is that at least for the next several years, North Korea will not be technically capable of delivering a nuclear warhead on a missile.

http://story.northkoreatimes.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/08aysdf7tga9s7f7/id/505825/cs/1/

Weapons experts point out that while North Korea is pushing hard to develop a nuclear arsenal, it does not have an effective way to attack with an atomic warhead or bomb.


What are you talking about you have no idea whats coming out of your mouth. North Korea is incapable of launching nuclear missile strikes. So they send a few non nuclear missiles Seouls way it wot do anything but minor damage before North Korea is wiped off the map.



Captain Corea wrote:



So I'm asking you
-How can you be so sure that North Korea has the capability to destroy Seoul by launching a Nuclear attack?
1. They have yet to test a bomb capable of destroying Seoul
2. They have yet to launch a missile capable to carrying a traditional nuclear device.
3. They have yet to miniturize their technology so as to allow them to launch said missile.

So, have you actually done any reading other than the NY Times, or are you just planning to continue to quote a newspaper for your 'facts'?


Unless you can answer Captrain Coreas questions with some valid links and information, you're just here acting like a chicken with its head cut off.
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Adjumas Cheekbones



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

South Koreans don't give a damn about the north Korean blustering. Just western media (including nuthatch via his NY times Rolling Eyes ) because....It is a slow newsweek.

Just a few weeks ago NY times etc were warning 1 billion deaths at the hands of swine flu, now no one cares. North korea will be forgotten about next week when some crazy shoots kids in a high school or the next actor dies from overdose.

Nuthatch get perspective and stop believing every tiny NY times word you read. South Koreans dont care, not because they are dumb, but that they have more experience in how these things go.

Think of newspapers like hagwans. Is the priority of hagwans to improve english levels..no. Are newspapers priorities to better inform the people...no. Business is business.

AC

P.S. sorry if this does not fit your articulate template


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nuthatch



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you guys read?

all these points were addressed earlier in this thread...put two and two together

or

continue with your "denial"....


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Iamronin11



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nuthatch wrote:
do you guys read?

all these points were addressed earlier in this thread

'
no you didint address anything and you certainly didn't answer any of Captain Corea's questions. Your post and link was irrelevant and said nothing about Korea's nuclear delivery capabilities.




-How can you be so sure that North Korea has the capability to destroy Seoul by launching a Nuclear attack?
1. They have yet to test a bomb capable of destroying Seoul
2. They have yet to launch a missile capable to carrying a traditional nuclear device.
3. They have yet to miniaturize their technology so as to allow them to launch said missile.


Provide any proof that they have the technology to arm a missile with a nuclear warhead.


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