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Hater Depot

Joined: 29 Mar 2005

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:54 am Post subject:

Sergio wrote:

Obama submitted the same old cliched leftwingers' history of Israel, particularly with regard to the Palestinian refugees.

How? He strongly defended the country's right to exist and challenged Holocaust denial.

dmbfan

Joined: 09 Mar 2006

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject:

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All I heard was a man that hated his country.

Agreed.

OH, and do people know that under the Obama administration, the states have sold their land rights to the Federal government?

dmbfan

bucheon bum

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:41 am Post subject:

bacasper wrote:

Interested wrote:

bacasper wrote:

Talk is cheap.

Actions speak louder than words.

But credit where credit is due. He is the first American president to admit to this "conspiracy theory:"

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In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role in the overthrow of a democratically-elected Iranian government.

Yes, I was quite surprised. A much more mature approach than the Bush crowd. I must say I'm somewhat impressed with Obama - more than I expected.

Yes, I am impressed that he can actually string together coherent sentences also. But, so what? As he has already demonstrated, he doesn't walk the walk.

To paraphrase mises, BO is saying,
"I'll just keep doing what Bush did and give some nice speeches."

Yeah, I listened to half the speech then decided I've heard it all before, just less eloquently Smile

.

Blah blah blah. Actions speak louder than words. The speech was overrated. So he told us all what we already know. Perhaps no other President before him has said such things (such as the Iran incident that bacasper noted). Big whoop.

Now if his actions reflect his speech, then I'll be impressed.

And if I am a skeptic, you can be damned well sure the Arab world is too.

Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:08 am Post subject:

Here's an Egyptian (whose blog I sometime read) talk about it - he attended

Rantings of a Sand Monkey

See "The Speech"

This is an earlier entry...kind of amusing

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Obama is coming to EGYPT. Nyanyanyanyanyaaaa! *beep* you Jordan, *beep* you Indonesia, *beep* you Malaysia, *beep* you Morocco, *beep* you Qatar, *beep*
you Saudi, AND especially *beep* you Turkey! Go suck ****s!

Sergio Stefanuto

Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:34 am Post subject:

Melanie Phillips DESTROYS Obama!

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The President said:

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And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we�d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world

Uh? Here are some statistics of the number and percentage of Muslims in various countries:

Indonesia: 207,105,000 (88.2%);
Pakistan: 167,430,801 (95%);
India: 156,254,615 (13.4%);
Turkey: 70,800,000 (99%);
Egypt: 70,530,237 (90%);
Nigeria: 64,385,994 (45%);
Iran: 64,089,571 (98%);
Algeria: 32,999,883 (99%);
Morocco: 32,300,410 (99%);
Afghanistan: 31,571,023 (99%)
Saudi Arabia: 26,417,599 (100%)
USA: 4,558,068 (1.5%)

Just what planet is this US President on? Or is this not a statement but an aspiration?

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/3665171/a-statement-or-an-aspiration.thtml

Ouch. Stinger.

RufusW

Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:46 am Post subject:

sandmonkey wrote:

If you are going to see Obama, you are going to watch an expert showman. Just don't expect much beyond entertainment.

I think he's missing what the objective of Obama's speech was, it wasn't specific policy. The speech was obviously far more than 'entertainment'. But nice to hear an Egyptian voice on it.

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:

Melanie Phillips DESTROYS Obama!

He may well have made a mistake with that comment but it was hardly the lynch-pin of his speech/argument.

Last edited by RufusW on Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:55 am; edited 1 time in total

RufusW

Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:54 am Post subject:

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/3670626/obama-in-cairo.thtml This is a much more interesting article from Phillips.

Sergio Stefanuto

Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:48 am Post subject:

RufusW wrote:

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/3670626/obama-in-cairo.thtml

This is a much more interesting article from Phillips.

She's awesome.

pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:46 am Post subject:

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:

Melanie Phillips DESTROYS Obama!

Quote:

The President said:

Quote:

And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we�d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world

Ouch. Stinger.

If you include the "56 States" that Obama campaigned in, then I guess we'd the largest Muslim country.

dmbfan

Joined: 09 Mar 2006

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject:

I find it interesting that he said the United States is not a Christian nation. Then, he says that the U.S. is one of the largets muslim countries in the world. Well, at least I did nto vote for this clown. dmbfan

bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject:

Big_Bird wrote:

Here's an Egyptian (whose blog I sometime read) talk about it - he attended

Rantings of a Sand Monkey

See "The Speech"

I liked these parts:

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The speech was everything was expected and more. The guy achieved his goals and executed it effectively and brilliantly. It was big on comfort and platitudes, and short on substance, but really, what does one expect other than that from an Obama speech?If you are going to see Obama, you are going to watch an expert showman. Just don't expect much beyond entertainment.

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I am still waiting for a serious difference between him and Bush on the War on Terror. I mean, he said he will pull the troops out by 2012 and will close Gunatanmo some time later. So, if Gitmo ain't closed, detainees are still getting extradited, The troops are still in Iraq and Afghanistan, what exactly changed here? And how come people are all positive over this now? Wasn't that what Bush used to say? Now it's wise and good? WTF?

dmbfan

Joined: 09 Mar 2006

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject:

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liked these parts:
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The speech was everything was expected and more. The guy achieved his goals and executed it effectively and brilliantly. It was big on comfort and platitudes, and short on substance, but really, what does one expect other than that from an Obama speech?If you are going to see Obama, you are going to watch an expert showman. Just don't expect much beyond entertainment.

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I am still waiting for a serious difference between him and Bush on the War on Terror. I mean, he said he will pull the troops out by 2012 and will close Gunatanmo some time later. So, if Gitmo ain't closed, detainees are still getting extradited, The troops are still in Iraq and Afghanistan, what exactly changed here? And how come people are all positive over this now? Wasn't that what Bush used to say? Now it's wise and good? WTF?

Suckers.

dmbfan

mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject:

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:

Melanie Phillips DESTROYS Obama!

Quote:

The President said:

Quote:

And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we�d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world

Ouch. Stinger.

How so? The US is #12 out of almost 200. If you placed twelfth in a race of 200 you'd be one of the best runners, and India (twelfth place in terms of nominal GDP) has one of the largest economies in the world.

dmbfan

Joined: 09 Mar 2006

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject:

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By largest population
Following is a list of countries with largest Muslim population on left and highest percentage of Muslim population in the country on the right.

By Population By Percentage (citizens only)
Rank Country Muslim Population % Muslim Country % Muslim Muslim Population
1 Indonesia 207,000,105 88.20% Saudi Arabia 100% 26,417,599
2 Pakistan 167,430,801 95% Afghanistan 99% 31,571,023
3 India 156,254,615 13.4% Somalia 100% 8,591,629
4 Bangladesh 132,446,365 88% Maldives 99.9% 348,756
5 Turkey 70,800,000 99% Turkey 99% 70,800,000
6 Egypt 70,530,237 90% Western Sahara 99.8% 272,461
7 Nigeria 64,385,994 45% Iran 98% 67,337,681
8 Iran 64,089,571 98% Algeria 99% 32,206,534
9 Algeria 32,999,883 99% Mauritania 99% 3,083,772
10 Morocco 32,300,410 99% Yemen 99% 20,519,792
11 Afghanistan 31,571,023 99% Tunisia 99% 9,974,201
12 Saudi Arabia 26,417,599 100% Oman 99% 2,971,567
13 Sudan 26,121,865 65% Comoros 99% 664,534
14 Iraq 25,292,658 97% Djibouti 99% 471,935
15 Uzbekistan 23,897,563 89% Morocco 98.7% 32,300,410
16 Ethiopia 22,533,500 31.2% Pakistan 98% 162,487,489
17 Russia 21,513,046 15% Libya 97% 5,592,596
18 Yemen 20,519,792 99% Iraq 97% 25,292,658
19 China 19,594,707 1.5% Tajikistan 95% 6,805,330
20 Syria 16,234,901 88% Jordan 95% 5,471,745
21 Malaysia 14,467,694 60.4% Qatar 95% 819,898
22 Tanzania 12,868,224 35% Senegal 94% 10,459,222
23 Mali 11,062,376 90% Azerbaijan 93.4% 7,584,311
24 Niger 10,499,343 90% Bahrain 93.1% 659,682
25 Senegal 10,459,222 94% Egypt 91% 70,530,237
26 Tunisia 9,974,201 99% Mali 90% 11,062,376
27 Somalia 8,548,670 99% Niger 90% 10,499,343
28 Guinea 8,047,686 85% Gambia 95% 1,433,930
29 Azerbaijan 7,584,311 93.4% Uzbekistan 89% 23,897,563
30 Burkina Faso 7,449,626 52% Turkmenistan 89% 4,407,352
31 Kazakhstan 7,137,346 47% Indonesia 88.2% 207,000,105
32 Tajikistan 6,805,330 95% Bangladesh 88% 127,001,272
33 C�te d'Ivoire 6,677,043 38.6% Syria 88% 16,234,901
34 Congo (Kinshasa) 6,008,500 10% Guinea 85% 8,047,686
35 Libya 5,592,596 97% Kuwait 85% 1,985,300
36 Jordan 5,471,745 95% West Bank and Gaza 84% 3,159,999
37 Chad 5,306,266 54% Kyrgyzstan 80% 4,117,024
38 Turkmenistan 4,407,352 89% United Arab Emirates 76% 1,948,041
39 Philippines 4,392,873 5% Albania 70% 2,508,277
40 France 4,214,790 6.9% Brunei 64.5% 241,602
41 Kyrgyzstan 4,117,024 80% Sudan 65% 26,121,865
42 Uganda 4,090,422 15% Malaysia 60.4% 14,467,694
43 Mozambique 3,881,340 20% Sierra Leone 60% 3,610,585
44 Sierra Leone 3,610,585 60% Lebanon 55% 2,142,570
45 Ghana 3,364,776 16% Burkina Faso 52% 7,449,626
46 Cameroon 3,276,001 20% Chad 54% 5,306,266
47 Thailand 3,272,218 5% Nigeria 50% 64,385,994
48 Mauritania 3,083,772 99.9% Eritrea 50% 2,280,799
50 Germany 3,049,961 3.7% Ethiopia 50% 37,533,500
51 Oman 2,971,567 99% Bosnia 40% 1,820,879
52 United States 2,350,000 0.8% C�te d'Ivoire 38.6% 6,677,043
53 Albania 2,004,480 58% Guinea-Bissau 38% 538,090
54 Malawi 2,431,784 20% Tanzania 35% 12,868,224
55 Kenya 2,368,071 7% Macedonia 33.3% 685,305
56 Eritrea 2,280,799 50% Suriname 22% 96,391
57 Serbia and Montenegro 2,274,126 21% Serbia and Montenegro 21% 2,274,126
58 Lebanon 2,142,570 55% Mozambique 20% 3,881,340
59 Kuwait 1,985,300 85% Cameroon 20% 3,276,001
60 United Arab Emirates 1,948,041 76% Malawi 20% 2,431,784

Someone on the board needs to recheck some stats....

ubermenzch

Joined: 09 Jun 2008
Location: bundang, south korea

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject:

dmbfan wrote:

I find it interesting that he said the United States is not a Christian nation. Then, he says that the U.S. is one of the largets muslim countries in the world.

Well, at least I did nto vote for this clown.

dmbfan

by saying those things, wasn't he pointing to america being a land where everyone is free to worship any religion they like, or not to worship at all if that is their fancy?
and anyway the u.s. is not a christian nation. and he did not say the u.s. was one of the largest muslim countries. there is a difference between saying a country has a sizable muslim population and saying the country itself is muslim.
you are consistently this boards laziest poster.

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