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[bacasper]

In light of
Oregon Offers Terminal Patients Doctor-Assisted Suicide Instead of Medical Care
and
LaRouche: Obama Has Revived Hitler's Genocide Program
is the following hyperbole?

With This Statement From Him, The President Now Deserves Impeachment

Posted: 2009/07/24
From: Mathaba

July 22 (LPAC) - U.S. President Barack Obama delivered a nationally-televised press conference at 8 p.m. on July 22nd, in which on five separate occasions he called for health reform legislation featuring the establishment of "an independent board of doctors and health care experts" to make the life-and-death decisions of what care to provide, and what not, based on cost-effectiveness criteria - exactly the infamous "T-4" policy imposed by Adolf Hitler in 1939, for which the Nazi regime was tried and condemned at Nuremberg.

Lyndon LaRouche commented, within minutes of Obama's remarks:

"President Obama is now impeachable, because he has, in effect, proposed legislation which is an exact copy of the legislation for which the Hitler regime was condemned in the post-war trials. This is an impeachable offense: to propose such a thing in this time, is an impeachable offense. The time has come that the President of the United States deserves impeachment. With this statement from him, the President now deserves impeachment."

In discussions prior to the President's address, LaRouche had noted that we are going into a point where everything is going to blow by no later than about the 12th of October. Therefore, the critical thing is to defeat Obama now on his health care agenda. Defeat him now. If they are forced to extend the deadline and go into the fall before they actually get this thing nailed down, LaRouche explained, then they've already lost. So we've got to escalate to defeat this thing right at this moment.

The President's promotion of this "T-4" as the non-negotiable element of his package is really a Nuremberg crime, LaRouche continued, and that becomes a basis for rallying the forces for defeating this thing, proving that this is a "T-4" fascist program. It's really an act of treason against the General Welfare clause of the Constitution.

Therefore, LaRouche stated, we have got to beat this thing now, because that represents a strategic forcing mechanism; whereas if they ram this thing through in the short term, which they are really desperate to do, then the Constitution is finished, the Republic is gone. It's the equivalent of the Reichstag fire.


Can anyone confirm or refute that this was, in fact, Hitler's "T-4" program?

[djsmnc]

I say we crucify the SOB! Hang him! Doctor assisted presidential homicide!

[visitorq]

^ I'm all for it.

[Fox]

My understanding is that the T4 policy was about actively and intentionally killing patients based on certain criteria, including (for example) people with incurable physical and mental disabilities, often either by coercing their (or their guardian's) consent or with no consent at all. It was enacted against both adults and children. It wasn't merely about who to provide or deny care to, it was about outright and directly killing people.

Nothing Obama has proposed is remotely comparable to the policies in question. When hundreds of thousands of people start being murdered because of Obama's policies, this individual might have a point. Until then, it's much more likely he's just trying to reform a health care system that has been spiralling out of control in terms of both cost and quality degredation.

These lunatics only hurt their cause with their hyperbole.

[bacasper]

[Easter Clark]

[doc_ido]

Yep, I'm sure they'll be impeaching him any day now.

[bacasper]

^ Do you always vote for who you think will be the winner in an election?

[Otus]

Was wondering if/when LaRouche was going to spring back into action. He seems to pop up around the 6 month mark of any new administration in office.

Personally, I give the guy credit for one thing - I would have never gained an understanding of the 'higher' mathmatics without having read his material on Leibniz and Riemann.

Politically he has too many Plato (Platonic?) tendencies for my liking. Although I don't mind Plato on anything other than politics.