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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Tie a tie that shows confidence Reply with quote

Did you know "The Windsor knot is a thick wide and triangular tieknot that projects confidence."?

What is your "knot of choice"?

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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, i usually tie the full windsor knot in my tie. that big fatty knot is kind of an alpha male symbol in the office.
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OnTheOtherSide



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't wear ties. What is the point of a tie? What kind of practical function does it actualy serve? It's just a stupid thing people do to try to be "professional" Rolling Eyes I'll wear a tie when I get into politics or become a businessman. Until then, no.
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victorology



Joined: 10 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the four in hand.
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definitely maybe



Joined: 16 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on the collar. wide collar = double windsor. regular collar = four in hand
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OnTheOtherSide wrote:
I don't wear ties. What is the point of a tie? What kind of practical function does it actualy serve? It's just a stupid thing people do to try to be "professional" Rolling Eyes I'll wear a tie when I get into politics or become a businessman. Until then, no.


Ties are sexy.

I go with the Windsor, almost every time.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OnTheOtherSide wrote:
I don't wear ties. What is the point of a tie? What kind of practical function does it actualy serve? It's just a stupid thing people do to try to be "professional" Rolling Eyes I'll wear a tie when I get into politics or become a businessman. Until then, no.


People generally don't wear ties to work unless their HR department tells them they're supposed to.

If you're an ESL teacher, don't wear a tie unless your students are.
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OnTheOtherSide



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I guess ties are very common in Northeast Asia. Clothing is extremely formal for sure. I am just not into dressing formally unless I have to though, not my style.

In the US, I wear a tie maybe once a year tops. Do you all wear ties back home too? Or is this one of those "only in Korea" things, like sporting a pink shirt or a man purse?
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Details magazine says the four-in-hand knot is the only one you need. The full Windsor is for wide collars, something which isn't in vogue anymore.

I say the four-in-hand and the half Windsor are all you need.

That said, many guys are lazy and get those ready-wrapped ties that you simply take on and off.
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asams



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

half-windsor. the windsor is too bulky and the four-in-hand gets messy and looks lopsided most of the time. the half-windsor looks neater than the FIH and isn't as bulky as the windsor
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate ties with a passion. I was a civil servant for a while in London and though we had a casual office policy, I did have to wear suit and tie when going on meetings and conferences and hated it to death. They have no actual purpose apart from decoration and uniformity and they make you feel constricted and look stupid (at least I feel stupid wearing one.)

Ties should be banned. I like wearing a suit though, but no effing tie.
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OnTheOtherSide



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP wrote:
I hate ties with a passion. I was a civil servant for a while in London and though we had a casual office policy, I did have to wear suit and tie when going on meetings and conferences and hated it to death. They have no actual purpose apart from decoration and uniformity and they make you feel constricted and look stupid (at least I feel stupid wearing one.)

Ties should be banned. I like wearing a suit though, but no effing tie.


Agreed. It is a pointless piece of clothing that serves no logical purpose. It is just the mark of a corporate tool.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OnTheOtherSide wrote:
Yeah I guess ties are very common in Northeast Asia. Clothing is extremely formal for sure. I am just not into dressing formally unless I have to though, not my style.

In the US, I wear a tie maybe once a year tops. Do you all wear ties back home too? Or is this one of those "only in Korea" things, like sporting a pink shirt or a man purse?


In Korea, my company requires suits & ties for every man in the office between September-May. You can take the tie off in the summer months and wear a short-sleeved dress shirt (eww) if you want to.

In our US offices though, the only people wearing ties are the Korean branch managers and sales reps who are going out on sales calls that day. For everyone else, any collared shirt tucked into a pair of khakis will do.
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP wrote:
I hate ties with a passion. I was a civil servant for a while in London and though we had a casual office policy, I did have to wear suit and tie when going on meetings and conferences and hated it to death. They have no actual purpose apart from decoration and uniformity and they make you feel constricted and look stupid (at least I feel stupid wearing one.)

Ties should be banned. I like wearing a suit though, but no effing tie.


This reminds me that on my first visit to the UK, one of my favorite things to do was sit in the window of my friend's flat with my morning coffee and watch the smartly dressed guys walk past on their way to work. At the time, even though I lived in New York (where there's no shortage of suits and ties), there was something that just seemed sharper and more fashionable there.

Ties aren't completely useless. Creepy tourist girls in third story windows could have been admiring you, all that time.
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nosmallplans



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: noksapyeong

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no, no, no, no, no! Windsor or nothing! I hate half-assed knots!

My roommate goes out with his tailor-made suits and shirts but is clueless about the details and always leaves a messy, loose, half-Windsor hanging around his neck ruining everything.

The Windsor is only bulky if you buy crappy ties. A high-quality tie will knot down nice and firm and compact. It'll shape well, it'll create a nice twin peak 'n valley up front and it'll fill the collar wings nicely.
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