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Pimps & Prostitutes: ACORN works for YOU!
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Kimbop



Joined: 31 Mar 2008
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Pimps & Prostitutes: ACORN works for YOU! Reply with quote
Didn't see an Acorn thread, so here it is.

For those of you who don't listen to talk radio, here's the gist: Acorn employees across the country offer unethical advice on how to lie to the government in order to get home loans, what lies to tell in order to avoid paying taxes, and how to profit from employing underage undocumented prostitutes. But that's not the half of it:

Baltimore:

http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/10/chaos-for-glory/

Washington:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1_SFXmlfNg

New York:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/pimp_hooker_catch_staff_Js4YPEcsCcxLZhAEehLhmL

San Bernardino:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s8w9GEpSzw&feature=player_embedded#t=360

The aftermath:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/15/eveningnews/main5313869.shtml

One would think that Acorn now needs to be officially investigated, right? Think again:

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/ACORN-Sting-Filmmaker-May-Face-State-Charges-59130662.html
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think Congress just voted to strip funding; but the huge majority of their funding is through their members etc...
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was waiting for some one to post this. It's kind of over the top outrageous. It makes you wonder what nefarious practices, less high profile special interest groups get up to.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Any person with a normal mind would have immediately seen this guy as a fraud. Have you seen the outfit he wore? Straight out of snoop dog video.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mises wrote:
Any person with a normal mind would have immediately seen this guy as a fraud. Have you seen the outfit he wore? Straight out of snoop dog video.


Haha, it was what a middle management guy with no life experience would think a pimp was meant to look like. He had a cane, right?
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
And a fur coat.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-september-15-2009/the-audacity-of-hos

Funniest thing I've seen in a while. And I've been a Stewart hater of late. Might have to give him another chance.
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mises wrote:
Any person with a normal mind would have immediately seen this guy as a fraud.

Well apparently they tried it many many times over maybe 4 months, failed many times and had the cops called on them. The filmmaker certainly didn't highlight the fact it took him many attempts.

You obviously need to be weary of condemning a whole organization because of the actions of a few people. It's worth noting ACORN takes its workers from the poorer part of society.

Devil's advocate....kinda

Now, they're obviously facilitating illegal activity, but they're not the police and their sole motivator is helping the poor. Take the example of needle exchanges. These facilitate illegal activity for the 'greater good' of people not hurting themselves. Isn't dodging taxes to keep income (or similar) and thereby hopefully pulling herself out of poverty at least similar? (It seems to me the 'prostitute' was doing it voluntarily which isn't the case for the 13 Salvadoreans).

Is there a duty to report illegal behaviour?

What illegal behaviour did the ACORN employees engage in? Were they not just fudging tax returns etc... something that an educated person would know about (and do) if in the same position? And if so, are they not victims of a failed education and in fact deserve such help from ACORN.

Very Happy

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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It is an ethnic shakedown organization inspired byRules for Radicals, which ironically enough was also the inspiration of the young conservative man who just took them down. I hope more right thinking people learn from this and take on the various devils wrapped in happy language (community, social, justice, equality).
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005
PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmmm.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ACORN_HIDDEN_CAMERA?SITE=FLSTU&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Quote:
Police say a worker with the activist group ACORN who was caught on video giving advice about human smuggling to a couple posing as a pimp and a prostitute had reported the incident to authorities.

National City police said Monday that Juan Carlos Vera contacted his cousin, a police detective, to get advice on what to with information on possible human smuggling.

Vera was secretly filmed on Aug. 18 as part of a young couple's high-profile expose.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quote:
Whoops: Anti-ACORN Bill Ropes In Defense Contractors, Others Charged With Fraud

by Ryan Grim

Going after ACORN may be like shooting fish in a barrel lately -- but jumpy lawmakers used a bazooka to do it last week and may have blown up some of their longtime allies in the process.

The congressional legislation intended to defund ACORN, passed with broad bipartisan support, is written so broadly that it applies to "any organization" that has been charged with breaking federal or state election laws, lobbying disclosure laws, campaign finance laws or filing fraudulent paperwork with any federal or state agency. It also applies to any of the employees, contractors or other folks affiliated with a group charged with any of those things.

In other words, the bill could plausibly defund