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Hangeul=Hangugeo?

 
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:50 am    Post subject: Hangeul=Hangugeo? Reply with quote

I find that Koreans will use 한글 at times when they are referring to Korean, the language (한국어/말). When I say 한글쉽는데한국말어려워 i get met with blank stares, like I'm talking gibberish unless I say something like 쓰기숴워요 all the while making exaggerated writing motions.

I'm under the impression that it means "Korean script". I mean even the syllable 한 come straight from 韓 (han2) so it's not even like they're trying to avoid using the Chinese derived words. I guess because it was a native invention that they just lump it in with language that existed for hundreds of years before it's existence? I don't know. Has anyone else encountered this?
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just say 쓰기가 쉬운데 But I don't think Korean is very hard as compared to other languages.
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thurst



Joined: 08 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the actual language is called "hangukeo" or "hangukmal". you can add -eo to the end of any country to mean the language. hangul is specifically referring to the script.

people are probably confused bcuz you're not adding subject/object markers on hangul so it sounds like you're speaking like a caveman to them.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think most people back home would be confused too if someone said writing A's and B's was easy but the language was hard.
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:06 am    Post subject: Re: Hangeul=Hangugeo? Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
I find that Koreans will use 한글 at times when they are referring to Korean, the language (한국어/말). When I say 한글쉽는데한국말어려워 i get met with blank stares, like I'm talking gibberish unless I say something like 쓰기숴워요 all the while making exaggerated writing motions.

I'm under the impression that it means "Korean script". I mean even the syllable 한 come straight from 韓 (han2) so it's not even like they're trying to avoid using the Chinese derived words. I guess because it was a native invention that they just lump it in with language that existed for hundreds of years before it's existence? I don't know. Has anyone else encountered this?



It's a pretty hard sentence to pronounce correctly, they probably don't understand you
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NightSky



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

without guaranteeing this is right, I'd say something like:

sseugi nun shipta, malhagi nun oryowayo...

or hangukmal hanun-kot oryowayo, sseunun-kot shipta.
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zappadelta



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, you can spell it out however you want, but pronunciation/intonation are very important in Korean
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: Hangeul=Hangugeo? Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
I find that Koreans will use 한글 at times when they are referring to Korean, the language (한국어/말). When I say 한글쉽는데한국말어려워 i get met with blank stares, like I'm talking gibberish unless I say something like 쓰기숴워요 all the while making exaggerated writing motions.


한글은쉽지만한국말은어려워요

한글은 쉬운데 한국말은 어려워요

Try either of these.
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the sentence was just an example , in each phrase there's only one noun phrase I don't think my omitting the topic/subject marker is the problem. I just think it's conceptual, but either way thanks for the tips.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put yourself in their shoes. If someone mentioned to you offhand: "The English alphabet is easy. The English language is hard." in somewhat more broken English, would you understand right away not having had the exact experience with the Korean alphabet and language?
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