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Overtime classes worth the extra 20,000 won an hour?
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grandpa



Joined: 19 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Overtime classes worth the extra 20,000 won an hour? Reply with quote

I was offered to do 4 extra classes at this public school I started at. They pay 20,000 won each class in overtime. They are four individual classes, so that means 4 separate developed classes along with lesson plans.

I'd say it'll be about 1 hour to prepare each class and it takes me about 30 minutes to prepare a lesson plan. Add the class time, which is 1 hour. So that's 2 hours and 30 minutes for 20,000 won.

Worth it?

I also said I would do it, but I'm starting to have second thoughts. How upset would the public school be if I said the day before starting the classes that I no longer wished to do them?
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cut down on your lesson prep/plan writing time. it shouldn't take you one hour and 30 minutes to prepare for a one hour class.
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proustme



Joined: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Nowon-gu

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Overtime classes worth the extra 20,000 won an hour? Reply with quote

grandpa wrote:
How upset would the public school be if I said the day before starting the classes that I no longer wished to do them?


Then it would be okay because you'd be working on Korean time. Day before, minute before, seconds before -- all okay.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prepare 1 lesson that can be altered easily for each class.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Respectfully decline, saying that you need the time to study up on the Korean language and culture. Carry a resource book around for a week or two to reinforce your dedication. 20K an hour? Yikes.
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Overtime classes worth the extra 20,000 won an hour? Reply with quote

grandpa wrote:
Worth it?

I also said I would do it, but I'm starting to have second thoughts. How upset would the public school be if I said the day before starting the classes that I no longer wished to do them?


Definitely not worth it, but you agreed - so do it. Next semester when they ask again, respectfully decline and let them know why.
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gillod



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love my afterschool class. 11 kids, pretty chill. No cirriculum, so last week we did Halloween and Halloween movies, this week we're doing classic stories. Yeah, it's 5 more lesson plans and 5 times the prep and work, but it's an extra 400,000 a month and I really love the small size and the freedom, so. Take it if you want the challenge
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Murakano



Joined: 10 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for me it's a no brainer (though I do get paid much more than 20k), as it's within the school hours and it beats sitting around doing nothing and being bored in the afternoon.

1 hour is a lot of prep time though (especially if your class is 40 mins?). Luckily in my case I already have a book so only spend about 15-20 mins prepping.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you'll get faster at planning lessons after a while, but even so, at 20,000W an hour, it's not a good deal. unless you have an amazing group of advanced kids that you can do a lot of things with or it's a conversation class, i don't think it's worth it at that rate.
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Clockout



Joined: 23 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bunch of whiners in here as usual

it's nearly twice what you make in a normal working hour

if you don't want to do it that's fine but don't say it's because the wage isn't fair
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Clockout



Joined: 23 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
Prepare 1 movie that can be watched easily for each class.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think many people said it was unfair, just that the wage didn't end up being worth the amount of time invested.

it takes me about 30-45 minutes to plan and make materials for one class, that's basically 2 classes of time spent. i don't know about you, but even at my job back home i made more than $10 an hour.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...but you're already at work with a lot of these overtime classes. you're getting paid twice.

i'd LOVE to take over the after school classes from our after school teacher.
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Johnny5



Joined: 05 May 2009
Location: Chungju

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a book (Side by Side, Top Notch etc.) and you will drastically reduce your lesson planning.
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clockout wrote:
bunch of whiners in here as usual

it's nearly twice what you make in a normal working hour

if you don't want to do it that's fine but don't say it's because the wage isn't fair


Using the lower end of the PS teacher salary scale to illustrate how wrong Clockout is:

2 000 000 per month / 88 teaching hours per month = 22 728 won per teaching hour.

The wage isn't fair because its almost 3000/teaching hour less than the regular rate. Overtime should be MORE (1.5x more, actually) than your regular teaching hour rate, not LESS.
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