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Returning a Western Digital drive in Yongsan?
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Returning a Western Digital drive in Yongsan? Reply with quote

As I have mentioned, I had troubles with my new computer. The place I bought it from held it for a few days, told me they replaced the mainboard (which I seriously question, because Windows 7 never detected the change) and then promptly returned it to me with the bios set to default. They never bothered to check the HDD, or even to see what it did past getting locked-up at post.

So after trudging home with my computer via bus/subway/car, and 2 hours later, I find that it now turns on but locks at boot 90% of the time. Rolling Eyes

I called up the shop and basically bitched them out like no tomorrow, then was hung up on. I was told, "You picked the parts, so it's not our fault!" I said, "But you put it together, and the parts came from your shop."

Apparently they think they have done nothing wrong, and claimed they suddenly couldn't understand my English when I said I wanted a full refund. That's when I blew up at them, and they hung up.

So I dug into the problem a bit more myself, and have revealed a menu, which was hidden by a boot screen, that gives me an error 0078. According to the Asrock website, that means a bad SATA cable, jumper setting, or HDD. Jumpers are all set properly (meaning none on the HDD) and my mainboard supports 3.0g/s, and trying new SATA cables made no difference.

So it's gotta be the drive......

Will I have to go through that shop, or can I just take it to WD service myself for a trade-in?
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ladron



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn.

Bass, honestly man, just call the WD helpline (1800something in the states) and bitch like your feet were on fire and your ass was catching. You'll have a new hard drive before week's end, I promise.

I wish I could help more, knowing what all you've been through with this new machine. When it rains, it pours, eh?
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ladron



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, just for Shitz and giggles, did you try setting the Jumper for "master" even if its only one? I've had a few mobos (forget the brand right now) that got angry if there was no jumper on the HDD...
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ladron wrote:
Oh, just for Shitz and giggles, did you try setting the Jumper for "master" even if its only one? I've had a few mobos (forget the brand right now) that got angry if there was no jumper on the HDD...


No jumpers on SATA drives...none at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Returning a Western Digital drive in Yongsan? Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
As I have mentioned, I had troubles with my new computer. The place I bought it from held it for a few days, told me they replaced the mainboard (which I seriously question, because Windows 7 never detected the change) and then promptly returned it to me with the bios set to default. They never bothered to check the HDD, or even to see what it did past getting locked-up at post.

So after trudging home with my computer via bus/subway/car, and 2 hours later, I find that it now turns on but locks at boot 90% of the time. Rolling Eyes

I called up the shop and basically bitched them out like no tomorrow, then was hung up on. I was told, "You picked the parts, so it's not our fault!" I said, "But you put it together, and the parts came from your shop."

Apparently they think they have done nothing wrong, and claimed they suddenly couldn't understand my English when I said I wanted a full refund. That's when I blew up at them, and they hung up.

So I dug into the problem a bit more myself, and have revealed a menu, which was hidden by a boot screen, that gives me an error 0078. According to the Asrock website, that means a bad SATA cable, jumper setting, or HDD. Jumpers are all set properly (meaning none on the HDD) and my mainboard supports 3.0g/s, and trying new SATA cables made no difference.

So it's gotta be the drive......

Will I have to go through that shop, or can I just take it to WD service myself for a trade-in?



Try your drive in another machine. Should fail to be read. Try Spinrite on the drive while you have it in another machine.

Try a different drive in your machine. Shouldn't fail to get past boot.

Before you go back to the shop screaming, be sure of what you are yelling. Frankly, being angry doesn't work here. I have had to return hardware as well; not only from my place in Seoul (an hour), but in the past, from Chuncheon (2+hours).

Relax with the guys at the shop and things will work out better for you. Sorry its gone so wrong lately.

EDIT:

BE...from the net...

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try disabling the floppy controller both ide controllers and the sata controllers and see if you can get past the post error.


Then...

Quote:
...here is what I did, I had left the battery out all day, I got home and took all cards out and CPU and I blew it all with a compressor. Then I reinstalled the cpu and wiped all the old thermal paste out and put new fresh paste and reinstalled the heat sink and fan. I put in the video card and tried it. The pc posted and I was able to go into setup. I reentered all the info and set my settings and saved. I then shut it down a proceeded to reconnect and reinsert all the cards (Modem, audio) and reconnected all the conectors (SATA2, and 4 IDE devices). Booted up and reentered the setup and set all my settings.

Anyway it all works now....



Maybe a BIOS flash? What is the model of your mobo bass?
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eamo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to return a Western Digital drive myself at the moment. A 640GB which developed bad sectors. Problem is we can't find any proof of purchase............I'll let you know if or when I find where to send it.

To replace the WD I bought a 1TB Samsung F3........I'm impressed. It runs a full 8 degrees cooler than the WD and has about 30% better read/write times. Just my own little test using Sandra.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, already flashed the bios. The guy at the shop's idea of a fix was to reset the board and default the bios... then give it back to me as fine. Rolling Eyes

Don't have another drive around to test (and not planning to buy one if I can eek out a replacement somehow today).

It's a weird thing because it will boot maybe 10 percent of the time. Otherwise, it just hangs on the boot screen after it passes the ram test, recognizes the drive, the Blu-ray rom, and all... it either stops right there with the 0078 error, or moves on to the windows boot screen and just freezes.

Board is an Asrock P55m Pro . I wrote Asrock for answers, but that was before i saw the 0078 error code and did a search to find out what it was. I initially missed it because the computer was set to show a pretty boot logo full screen instead of the boot info:

http://www.asrock.com/support/faq.asp?c=HDD

In the USA, I am reading that Western Digital is supposed to be very good at returning drives. It's a WD 1tb Green HDD. I'm reading on Newegg that there are a high rate of 1tb and 2tb Green drives going bad after a few weeks, so I'm going to guess I'm in the same boat. I'm also going to see if WD will sell/exchange for a non-green drive. I would never have bought it, but my wife's 500gb Green drive has been good.

Eamo, there are some stickers on my HDD from uplaza.co.kr , which must be where the shop got it. I will contact them today to see about a return. You have anything like that?
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eamo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Eamo, there are some stickers on my HDD from uplaza.co.kr , which must be where the shop got it. I will contact them today to see about a return. You have anything like that?


Funnily enough, yes. A sticker like yours. uplaza.co.kr......my wife will call the number on the sticker today and ask if we can return the drive to them as it has their "call us if you have a problem" sticker on it.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
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Eamo, there are some stickers on my HDD from uplaza.co.kr , which must be where the shop got it. I will contact them today to see about a return. You have anything like that?


Funnily enough, yes. A sticker like yours. uplaza.co.kr......my wife will call the number on the sticker today and ask if we can return the drive to them as it has their "call us if you have a problem" sticker on it.


Please let me know what they say.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From their site, maybe they're closed on Sat?
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eamo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
From their site, maybe they're closed on Sat?


Whatever, I'm in no rush. I've already replaced the drive with the Samsung.

I bought the WD 640 just a year ago........I also have a WD 500GB in my machine which has the OS installed......now it's making funny noises. I'm right off WD.

My definition of a decent HDD is one which lasts 5 years +.......I'd like to know the average lifespan of the different HDD brands.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
I'm right off WD.

My definition of a decent HDD is one which lasts 5 years +.......I'd like to know the average lifespan of the different HDD brands.


Make that 2 of us!
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spanky1off



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

think i can help..had 3 seperate hard drives fail earlier this year from different manufacturers..so got to know pretty well where the places are.

basically western digital like the other manufacturers will replace any failed hard drive free of charge no questions asked..as long as its less than 3 years old.

just take it back to wd a/s shop, which if memory serves me correctly is the bottom floor of the multi story builing in yongsan...not sure its name but its the building thats linked to yongsan station by an over head pass over the rail tracks and has the car parks infront if it (old part of yongsan).

there is another place too in the old building related to wd...im not sure which u need but ask the oher guys first, and if you need to go here they can gve you directions/address. i think it might be different places depending where u bought it originally.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a new drive and have been able to reinstall win7 on it.... going to see if this works after a reboot (which is where I start having troubles).

Cross your fingers!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it was a no-go.

Reboot caused it to hang again.

Called the store again. They said bring it in Monday for a replacement mainboard. They admitted not changing the mainboard now. Just turned on the power and saw it booted. They assumed that because they saw a post screen, everything was OK.

Wonderful.

Another day of troubleshooting down the drain.

Windows only seems to work if I boot directly from the bios set-up... some of the time (which had something to do with why I was able to install it in the first place). Otherwise, it hangs. Sad
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