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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: parenthood in general and in korea Reply with quote

I'm getting married in the spring, so I'm thinking a lot about motherhood! Well, I'd like to wait 3-4 years before I have my first child...

I was also wondering how many posters have children. Also, if they were born in Korea, how is raising them here? Furthermore, if they are in school in Korea, how is that working out?
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to raise a child in Korea. I don't like the way kids behave here, and I don't want to (have to) be that involved with the culture.

I think my lack of interest in Korean men is at least partially due to this issue. I'm not thinking about having kids now, or any time soon but... well.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My girl is 2 1/2. So far i have found...

The positives:
-very supportive family.
-my flexible work schedule.

The negatives:
-Horrible air quality on many days
-dangerous roads
-dangerous sidewalks
-sparse greenspace
-inconvenient to use a stroller
-too much construction (noise, dirt, etc...)
-expensive kiddie activities
-limited playdate potential
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
I don't like the way kids behave here.


At least the kids in Korea listen to adults.

A little twit in the West has no problem telling an adult to f-ck off.
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: parenthood in general and in korea Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
I'm getting married in the spring, so I'm thinking a lot about motherhood! Well, I'd like to wait 3-4 years before I have my first child...

I was also wondering how many posters have children. Also, if they were born in Korea, how is raising them here? Furthermore, if they are in school in Korea, how is that working out?


Mixed kids are generally treated like shitt so that should be your main concern. Why not adopt? There are thousands of abandoned kids here.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

youtuber wrote:
Draz wrote:
I don't like the way kids behave here.


At least the kids in Korea listen to adults.

A little twit in the West has no problem telling an adult to f-ck off.


What Western country are you thinking about?

When I was in Europe over the summer, I saw a woman taking care of seven young children. They were all about 2-2.5 years old. They were paired up and walking down the sidewalk hand in hand. They weren't moving very fast, but everyone was doing what they were supposed to, no one was whining or running off. And I saw many other nannies (though this one was the most impressive caring for seven toddlers alone) and their charges were all behaving themselves too.

When I saw that... it made me seriously reconsider never having kids. Laughing They were so cute!
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: parenthood in general and in korea Reply with quote

youtuber wrote:
MollyBloom wrote:
I'm getting married in the spring, so I'm thinking a lot about motherhood! Well, I'd like to wait 3-4 years before I have my first child...

I was also wondering how many posters have children. Also, if they were born in Korea, how is raising them here? Furthermore, if they are in school in Korea, how is that working out?


Mixed kids are generally treated like shitt so that should be your main concern. Why not adopt? There are thousands of abandoned kids here.


Do you have a 'mixed kid'?
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: parenthood in general and in korea Reply with quote

youtuber wrote:
MollyBloom wrote:
I'm getting married in the spring, so I'm thinking a lot about motherhood! Well, I'd like to wait 3-4 years before I have my first child...

I was also wondering how many posters have children. Also, if they were born in Korea, how is raising them here? Furthermore, if they are in school in Korea, how is that working out?


Mixed kids are generally treated like shitt so that should be your main concern. Why not adopt? There are thousands of abandoned kids here.


Yeah right

That is why my son gets constantly free food and people can't keep their eyes of off him. I constantly have to tell people to stop taking pictures and stop gawking at him.

Not all kids get treated like that.
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youtuber



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: parenthood in general and in korea Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:


people can't keep their eyes of off him. I constantly have to tell people to stop taking pictures and stop gawking at him.


Is that a good thing?

Anyways, my main point is why not adopt? Why go thru the trouble of creating a new person when there are tons already available?
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: parenthood in general and in korea Reply with quote

youtuber wrote:

Anyways, my main point is why not adopt? Why go thru the trouble of creating a new person when there are tons already available?


While adopting is certainly a noble thing, I don't think it's at all unreasonable to want to have a child of your own, and it's unfair to criticize any couple for wanting their own child instead of taking up someone else's burden. You seem to be saying, "Someone else made a child for whatever reason, so instead of having one of your own, why not raise theirs?" For many people, it's simply not the same.

I'm not sure whether I want children of my own, but I certainly wouldn't want to adopt a child. Raising a child I'm directly responsible for the creation of is one thing; taking on someone else's burden in this regard would likely be intolerable.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: parenthood in general and in korea Reply with quote

Fox wrote:

While adopting is certainly a noble thing, I don't think it's at all unreasonable to want to have a child of your own, and it's unfair to criticize any couple for wanting their own child instead of taking up someone else's burden. You seem to be saying, "Someone else made a child for whatever reason, so instead of having one of your own, why not raise theirs?" For many people, it's simply not the same.

I'm not sure whether I want children of my own, but I certainly wouldn't want to adopt a child. Raising a child I'm directly responsible for the creation of is one thing; taking on someone else's burden in this regard would likely be intolerable.


Many many people don't see children mainly as a burden fyi.

I wouldn't adopt either, unless I'd already tried the easy way (having sex and giving birth) and it didn't work. I've seen enough tv dramas to know that adoption is a pain in the ass. Laughing
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youtuber



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno I just don't really understand the whole baby making thing. Do people feel that their genes are superior to others so they should "go forth and multiply"? That's kind of weird isn't it? Kind of narcissistic isn't it? What's wrong with someone else's "burden"? If an adoptee is healthy, what's the problem? Why not help a kid out? Seems kind of selfish doesn't it?

It boggles my mind that some people in Canada will spend tens of thousands of dollars on fertility treatments when they could just adopt.
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jmuns



Joined: 09 Sep 2009
Location: earth

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

youtuber wrote:
That's kind of weird isn't it? Kind of narcissistic isn't it?


this makes your mom one weird, narcissistic b....
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: Re: parenthood in general and in korea Reply with quote

youtuber wrote:
Juregen wrote:


people can't keep their eyes of off him. I constantly have to tell people to stop taking pictures and stop gawking at him.


Is that a good thing?

Anyways, my main point is why not adopt? Why go thru the trouble of creating a new person when there are tons already available?


I noticed how you avoided my question.

I know may parents here with mixed kids... and NONE OF THEM have said that their kids are treats 'shitty'.

So, where does your grand knowledge on the subject come from?
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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:50 pm    Post subject: Re: parenthood in general and in korea Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
Fox wrote:

While adopting is certainly a noble thing, I don't think it's at all unreasonable to want to have a child of your own, and it's unfair to criticize any couple for wanting their own child instead of taking up someone else's burden. You seem to be saying, "Someone else made a child for whatever reason, so instead of having one of your own, why not raise theirs?" For many people, it's simply not the same.

I'm not sure whether I want children of my own, but I certainly wouldn't want to adopt a child. Raising a child I'm directly responsible for the creation of is one thing; taking on someone else's burden in this regard would likely be intolerable.


Many many people don't see children mainly as a burden fyi.


I think many people don't see their own children as a burden. I think many people would see caring for another person's child as a burden. I'm not sure how many people could view an adopted child as truly their own. I'm not sure I could. Maybe I'm judging too many people by my own standard, I don't know.
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