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been_that_done_there
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: Do they expect miracles? |
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When I got to my school, my instructions were this: "Teach the children to speak English". I have no textbooks, resources or curriculum. But what makes this even more bizarre is that I see my classes once a week for 50 minutes. That means less than 4 hours a month which is the equivalent of 48 hours a year (48 hours = 2 days). So they want me to teach these unskilled high school kids to speak English in approximately 2 days spread out over a year. 
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asams

Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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In a word: YES. |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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This post is so FOB, I don't even know what to say. |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm no Picasso wrote: |
This post is so FOB, I don't even know what to say. |
FOB? |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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diver wrote: |
I'm no Picasso wrote: |
This post is so FOB, I don't even know what to say. |
FOB? |
Fresh off the boat. |
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asams

Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'm no Picasso wrote: |
diver wrote: |
I'm no Picasso wrote: |
This post is so FOB, I don't even know what to say. |
FOB? |
Fresh off the boat. |
I figured it meant 'Full of Bull' |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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I know exactly where you're coming from.
Ask your English director (or the head teacher) if it would be possible for you to teach the dialogue section that is usually found at the beginning of each week's chapter of their (horrible) textbooks.
There's usually some sort of theme (giving directions, national heroes, taking a trip, etc.) that can be used as a foundation for a solid ESL lesson. Add some vocabulary, do a short powerpoint presentation, print up a worksheet, and you'll be seen as the second coming.
As an educator it sucks to know you'll have absolutely zero impact on their language ability, but put forth some effort and you'll find a couple of kids that will really shine.
If you're really the "How can I reach these kiiiiiiiiiiiiiids?" type, ask the director if you can form a "Sarang-ban" or "Love Class" in which you can recruit the top dozen or so English speakers from all your grades/classes and have a once or twice a week class that really pushes them. |
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beercanman
Joined: 16 May 2009
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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If after one year the average student can say things like "My name is____. I am ____ years old. I go to ____ school. I have ___ brothers/sisters. My birthday is ____. Today is (November 1 . The weather is ____"
Consider that success. |
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eIn07912

Joined: 06 Dec 2008 Location: seoul
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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OP, the reason you find this frustrating, is because you think you're actually supposed to teach them English. When this country was built on the concept of "face."
So, in fact, you're supposed to teach them to make it appear that they have learned English. If you see your kids that little, just have them memorize a few sentences, work on their handwriting a little, and that'll be enough.
English, for Koreans, has no practical use. It's just a kind of "look good" measure. 98% that learn it, will never use it in their daily life. English is just as practical here as Portuguese is in the States. Those that absolutely need to learn it for their jobs, will. |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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eIn07912 wrote: |
Those that absolutely need to learn it for their jobs, will. |
Let's not jump to conclusions  |
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mc_jc

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Why do people complain when there are no books or curriculum- it means you could be more creative in your lessons.
When I was an ESL teacher back in the late-90's/early-2000's, there were some places where I would walk in and only be given a workbook. It took me about 6 months to realize the potential creativity in the situation.
I made my own lesson plans, materials, lesson goals, etc. In the end, not only did I feel confident that I could teach in almost any setting, but that my students were actually learning something.
Take a step back and see how you could use the situation.
Also, it would help to get some feedback from more experienced teachers through such groups as KoTESOL and such. |
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mysterious700
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Go to an English Bookstore or a large bookstore in Seoul with an English section. You can buy a picture dictionary and maybe some flash cards too, if you're doing elementary. Use the dictionary to come up with ideas and then teach the students some vocabulary words from these. Later ask questions and get them to answer you. You can also use wikipedia or google imagese for some pictures on these topics and ask the students some questions about it. Towards the end, the students can practice speaking to each other. Fairly easy. Just make sure the coteacher actually disciplines and controls the students. New teachers and substitutes tend to be the worst for this. |
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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diver wrote: |
eIn07912 wrote: |
Those that absolutely need to learn it for their jobs, will. |
Let's not jump to conclusions  |
No kidding. Would it kill them to put an English speaker in the immigration office in Cheongju that serves the entire province? |
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nosmallplans

Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Location: noksapyeong
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'm no Picasso wrote: |
diver wrote: |
I'm no Picasso wrote: |
This post is so FOB, I don't even know what to say. |
FOB? |
Fresh off the boat. |
Nope. Wrong.
Fresh Off the 비행기. |
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tiger fancini

Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Location: Testicles for Eyes
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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diver wrote: |
eIn07912 wrote: |
Those that absolutely need to learn it for their jobs, will. |
Let's not jump to conclusions  |
Lol, so true. I always tell my adult students that just 20 hours of class a month will NOT be enough for them to achieve their goal. They always tell me, "I want English speaking very well." After pointing out the shortcomings in that particular sentence, I go on to tell them that speaking good English requires a similar effort to obtaining a high skill in playing a musical instrument. In short, lots and lots of daily speaking practice. |
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