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br_owen
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 Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: GEPIK Vacation |
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everyone should complain to GEPIK about this. State that the vacation is a big bonus of the public school system and that we will all leave once are contracts are finished to either Hogwans or EPIK. I had 7 weeks last year, and it's one of the main reason i signed again (my Principal is cool). If no-one makes a fuss then it will be enforced. There are some things which need unified action and i think this is one of them. Do it respectfully, and simply make clear that it is not fair that it is different than what is expected of the Korean teachers. We should be treated as adults, and not made to create work out of thin air for the sake of it. I know people will say, 'well you signed a contract...', but most of us were told, either by the previous teacher or the Principal, that vacation was at their discretion once the school was closed.
If you have 5 minutes free, then send an e-mail, which leads me to a question...
who do we complain to?! |
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jmuns
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| you signed the contract, but did you read it? do you believe everything you hear? |
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br_owen
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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you're an idiot.
yes i signed it. yes i read it. no, i don't believe everything i hear. yes, i believed them, and i was right to (did you read my post?). The problem isn't the word of my Principal (i got 7 weeks my first year). The problem is the mandatory notice that has been handed down to all Gepik schools. Hence, if we all stand together, and make a point that the old way was better (discretion of the Principal) then maybe it will change back. |
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jmuns
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| you're so awesome. |
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br_owen
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| haha. ok. |
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grandpa
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject: Re: GEPIK Vacation |
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| br_owen wrote: |
everyone should complain to GEPIK about this. State that the vacation is a big bonus of the public school system and that we will all leave once are contracts are finished to either Hogwans or EPIK. I had 7 weeks last year, and it's one of the main reason i signed again (my Principal is cool). If no-one makes a fuss then it will be enforced. There are some things which need unified action and i think this is one of them. Do it respectfully, and simply make clear that it is not fair that it is different than what is expected of the Korean teachers. We should be treated as adults, and not made to create work out of thin air for the sake of it. I know people will say, 'well you signed a contract...', but most of us were told, either by the previous teacher or the Principal, that vacation was at their discretion once the school was closed.
If you have 5 minutes free, then send an e-mail, which leads me to a question...
who do we complain to?! |
Well foreign teachers don't have to work Saturdays like Korean teachers. If you want to be like Korean teachers, then start coming in every other Saturday.
Foreign teachers don't have to go to meetings and do loads of paperwork. If you want to be like a Korean teacher, then start going to meetings and doing loads of paperwork.
Foreign teachers don't have to deal with parents. If you want to be like a Korean teacher, then start dealing with parents.
If you really need 7 weeks vacation then wait until your contract is up and take 7 weeks off before going to a new school.
Use your time at school to study something you enjoy, or just fill out one of those "home study" forms. |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: Re: GEPIK Vacation |
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| br_owen wrote: |
everyone should complain to GEPIK about this. State that the vacation is a big bonus of the public school system and that we will all leave once are contracts are finished to either Hogwans or EPIK. I had 7 weeks last year, and it's one of the main reason i signed again (my Principal is cool). If no-one makes a fuss then it will be enforced. There are some things which need unified action and i think this is one of them. Do it respectfully, and simply make clear that it is not fair that it is different than what is expected of the Korean teachers. We should be treated as adults, and not made to create work out of thin air for the sake of it. I know people will say, 'well you signed a contract...', but most of us were told, either by the previous teacher or the Principal, that vacation was at their discretion once the school was closed.
If you have 5 minutes free, then send an e-mail, which leads me to a question...
who do we complain to?! |
precisely the wrong approach.
Take your principal out for some samgyapsal and soju and "discuss" the issue with him after you've poured him the proper amount of soju using two hands.
principals remain more powerful than bureaucratic gepik nonsense directives. |
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br_owen
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| ok. you 2 are obviously fine with it, so go in to class and post on Dave's or whatever you want to do. For the others that took public school positions with the 7 weeks vacation in mind, as it was a perk of the job, then send an e-mail or something. It would be nice to have those weeks back. |
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br_owen
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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'precisely'?
like i said, it's not the Principal, and who knows - maybe I will still get lucky. But that's not the point. I'm saying it should be done so the notice is withdrawn, and for that to happen a lot of people need to take action. Me taking my Principal for a drink is not going to change the situation for others. This should be done so that it is implemented across the board. |
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cincynate
Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: Jeju-do, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't threaten to go to EPIK. They pulled the same bs this year. I have to come in every day over the break, and sit at my desk. I asked "what am I supposed to do", and they said 'just sit at your desk from 9-5. |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| br_owen wrote: |
'precisely'?
like i said, it's not the Principal, and who knows - maybe I will still get lucky. But that's not the point. I'm saying it should be done so the notice is withdrawn, and for that to happen a lot of people need to take action. Me taking my Principal for a drink is not going to change the situation for others. This should be done so that it is implemented across the board. |
precisely dumb... and dumber....
the notice will not be withdrawn, given their supply of teachers this year is bigger than in years past.
You also dismiss the simple fact that the very reason this notice supposedly exists is because some whiners in years past went collectively whining about their own crappy dice roll situations compared to others' , so now the POEs decided to collectively screw everyone.
as to changing the situation for others, I couldn't give a flying intercourse about them. Look out for number one. No one else is going to do it for you.
what's happening to you now is the direct result of the previous actions of the "others".
only a couple of weeks left till my long winter vacation! |
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br_owen
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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precisely dumb... and dumber....
- not using the word correctly, but...
the notice will not be withdrawn, given their supply of teachers this year is bigger than in years past.
- apathy has always worked in the past to implement change.
as to changing the situation for others, I couldn't give a flying intercourse about them. Look out for number one. No one else is going to do it for you.
- sound like a good person. and you're misguided, it's much easier to look after yourself when others are looking out for you too. Helping others does not ensure ones own failure. |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| br_owen wrote: |
precisely dumb... and dumber....
- not using the word correctly, but...
the notice will not be withdrawn, given their supply of teachers this year is bigger than in years past.
- apathy has always worked in the past to implement change.
as to changing the situation for others, I couldn't give a flying intercourse about them. Look out for number one. No one else is going to do it for you.
- sound like a good person. and you're misguided, it's much easier to look after yourself when others are looking out for you too. Helping others does not ensure ones own failure. |
you also sound like a good person but IMO it's you who is misguided.
You strike me as a big union guy for e.g. I, on the other hand, would never willingly join a union (only possible exception is if I were a professional athlete)
While I appreciate others trying to "look out for me", I'd much prefer if they allowed me to look out for myself and left me alone instead of complicating matters for me.
I've been diligently looking out for myself, by myself since coming here. It's much more effective that way. Even if well intentioned, there are too many idiots and buffoons out there that will screw up even the best of ideas. |
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Cerulean
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry buddy, but I'm not complaining to anyone other than my fellow expats.
I'm not surprised this is happening and neither should you be if you've been paying attention for the last few years. I expect to have to sit in my class this year. Just as I expect it every year and hopefully I'll be lucky like the past years and not have to.
If I do have to go to school that would suck but I'm not going to complain about it to anyone in my school or higher up. I know what the school has the right to do. I know my contract. I know how much vacation I am entitled to. Such is life here and if I have to go to school so it looks like I'm working then so be it.
I'm not knocking you OP. It totally sucks but there are some of us out here who may still have nice cozy, long vacations at home. I have no intentions of bringing attention to them or if I'm lucky, me.
I won't be surprised to see this issue change in our contracts within the next few years. *Sigh* |
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