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In all seriousness, we may see the North collapse soon
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:19 am    Post subject: In all seriousness, we may see the North collapse soon Reply with quote

Currency revamp causing people to openly dis the gov't:
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/12/03/2009120300331.html


Army seizes control of economy:
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/11/04/2009110400746.html


Economy was said to be on brink back in August:

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/08/04/2009080400257.html
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hoopslam



Joined: 19 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all seriousness, the North has been on the brink of collapse for the last few decades.

For the sake of all the struggling people up there, I hope change comes soon.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kim Jong-Il's son kind of looks like that swimmer that won a gold medal in Beijing.

Anyways, I've always thought a collapse would happen suddenly. Not in the drawn out idealist way that Kim Dae-Jung and Roh Mu-Hyun were hoping. So who knows? Hopefully in the upcoming months and hopefully those China skeptics will be wrong and China won't make North Korea their new province.
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems like we can expect Kim Jong Il to step down in the near future, the question is whether the government can survive the transition to his son's leadership.

As always, China is playing the enabler by giving the Norks free coal and oil, and a steady supply of foreign currency in exchange for their minerals.
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jhuntingtonus



Joined: 09 Dec 2008
Location: Jeonju

PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope so.
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they can hold off until I've had my holiday there later in the year that would be just grand.

In all seriousness, it's so difficult to see what will happen when Kim Jong-Il does die. I predict a struggle for power between his 3 sons. It'll be interesting to see what happens.

Interesting article from today: http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/12/09/2009120900263.html
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I believed everything the Chosun Ilbo wrote, I'd have expected the North to collapse years ago.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Dear Leader really has pancreatic cancer, he will be dead in months and it already has been a few months since the announcement. Very soon somthing may happen.
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Manner of Speaking



Joined: 09 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, when the Berlin Wall came down, I was shocked because I grew up under the perception that the Eastern Bloc as much more monolithic than it turned out to really be. Even with perestroika.

Maybe the same is true about North Korea:

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/12/15/2009121500361.html
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be North Korean adjummas that will bring the collapse.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manner of Speaking wrote:
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/12/15/2009121500361.html

My fav line from that:
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12 "masterminds" were summarily executed, with authorities on heightened alert for mass defections

in other words, shoot on sight the protest leaders
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day...the north korean people don't have the power to do anything about it.
it would take outside intervention to bring change. And nobody cares enough.