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Are You Making $1/minute?
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Trinidad



Joined: 06 Oct 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Are You Making $1/minute? Reply with quote

I think anyone who has been here over 2 years should be making about
a dollar a minute. If your not, why not? Are you complacent to be at
the bottom of the food chain? Do you enjoy making shady Korean
hagwon owners money? Are you making more than a buck a minute?
Are you scared of the terrible immi bogeyman? Do you have no idea
how to make that much? Are you here only to finance a bit of a post-
teaching trip and don't care?
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DeMayonnaise



Joined: 02 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you care? Money isn't everything...
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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$1 per minute? That's roughly 70,000 won per hour? I don't make that much, but I also like my job and decided that money was not the most important factor. I could have gotten close to that, but it would have been in an environment I would have hated from the word go. My happiness is not for sale.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

runthegauntlet: is that MC Hammer doing the moves on our avatar?

Trin'nad: Yeah, you said you're a highly paid engineer and so on,
and your income is not limited by that pay-packet etc.
If we gave you a collective raspberry would you go and find a challenge worthy of yourself?
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pusky



Joined: 03 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who like to brag about being in the top 10% or whatever of teachers here but really all this infighting is less about who is making it big but rather who is slightly less poor than the others. Its kind of like watching morbidly obese people footrace. There are clear winners but its altogether unimpressive.

It breaks down like this:

First few years here you can save a decent amount of money and experience some international flavor. You won't make enough to have the finer things in life but if you can accept that you can have a good time. You can still go back to your home country for a career at this point if money is what drives you. It is shortsighted and impractical to compare your salary and benefits to those who have made a career of it. You don't deserve it and you will in all likelihood not get it.

5+years: You have enough experience and contacts to milk the job for all its worth and the time to secure the visas/jobs you need to be where you want to be professionally. This means you make significantly more than the newbies. Of course this comes at the price. Teaching is now your career. It is not comparable to people coming for 1-2 years and leaving. It is more of a comparison to a corporate or skilled position in the west. Teaching is a respectable career anywhere and in especially in Korea you can live relatively well. Sadly as is the case with other jobs like carpentry, plumbing, or programming (except in rare circumstances) you are limited in the hours you can work and will never be rich. Being a teacher is very stable with benefits, but unfortunately you can probably never have the best car in the figurative parking lot.


TLDR People staying long term and short term are not comparable because their goals and needs are completely different. These kind of threads are stupid.
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Cerulean



Joined: 19 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigh!

Boring.
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Hightop



Joined: 11 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pusky wrote:
People who like to brag about being in the top 10% or whatever of teachers here but really all this infighting is less about who is making it big but rather who is slightly less poor than the others. Its kind of like watching morbidly obese people footrace. There are clear winners but its altogether unimpressive.


Best thing I have read on Dave's for a while. Love it.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Are You Making $1/minute? Reply with quote

Trinidad wrote:
I think anyone who has been here over 2 years should be making about
a dollar a minute. If your not, why not? Are you complacent to be at
the bottom of the food chain? Do you enjoy making shady Korean
hagwon owners money? Are you making more than a buck a minute?
Are you scared of the terrible immi bogeyman? Do you have no idea
how to make that much? Are you here only to finance a bit of a post-
teaching trip and don't care?


if a hakwon pays his teachers 1000won a minute he is a stupid business man!

do the workers at microsoft make 5 dollars a minute???
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DeMayonnaise



Joined: 02 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pusky wrote:
First few years here you can save a decent amount of money and experience some international flavor. You won't make enough to have the finer things in life but if you can accept that you can have a good time.


I dunno man, even first year teachers here make some serious money. Even 2 million won tax-free plus housing is pretty good cash, especially for a 22 year old without any dependents. I'd say I'm easily making more money than my friends back home with real "careers". Well, really, most of my friends back home haven't even started their careers yet with the recession and all. I AM making more money than regular ol first year middle school teachers in the US, when you count tax and rent (and why wouldn't you?).
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runthegauntlet



Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
runthegauntlet: is that MC Hammer doing the moves on our avatar?


Think so. Could just be some random dude being funny, but for all intents and purposes, it's 'supposed' to be MC Hammer.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that is Hammer....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo

Time to break out the Parachute Pants

What the heck was everyone on during the 80s???
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Gaber



Joined: 23 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you think a public school teacher should be making 2.4 million won a week? Well, if you hiring I'm in!
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Triban



Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gaber wrote:
So you think a public school teacher should be making 2.4 million won a week? Well, if you hiring I'm in!


I would let you [Modedit] on my [Modedit] for [Modedit]ing 6 hours straight for that much.
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yeti08



Joined: 04 Nov 2009
Location: Anyang - Pyeongchon

PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP what is the exact point of this thread? For you to
A. Indirectly gloat about your money?
B. Make nOObs wish for something they won't soon get?
C. Troll for an arguement of not so epic proportions?
D. Drive your figurative sports car around Dave's because your male member is too small?
E. All of the above.
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