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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: What's a good Website server in Korea? |
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Is there any on-line Website service which is offered for a reasonable fee?
I have come across an outfit in Seoul called Internet Brothers,
but it seems like they're going to be expensive. |
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jeffbright
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Trinidad
Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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I don't understand why you want a Korean server. The internet is location neutral. |
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jeffbright
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Trinidad wrote: |
I don't understand why you want a Korean server. The internet is location neutral. |
You should get your web servers as 'close' to the audience as possible.
the number of routers data has to cross between your site visitors and your web hosting server it should be minimized.
As a web master It becomes much easier for you to manage your site too. I was going to some ESL related websites and I noticed that they are using their services like this one eslbabble.com |
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Trinidad
Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:49 am Post subject: |
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jeffbright wrote: |
Trinidad wrote: |
I don't understand why you want a Korean server. The internet is location neutral. |
You should get your web servers as 'close' to the audience as possible.
the number of routers data has to cross between your site visitors and your web hosting server it should be minimized.
As a web master It becomes much easier for you to manage your site too. I was going to some ESL related websites and I noticed that they are using their services like this one eslbabble.com |
I am webmaster for a Korean company. I use an American hosting
company. 100% guaranteed up time. 24-hr English language support.
100% English language instructions.
Ping from Korea to USA is always below 100ms. So there is no
issue about "closeness".
Like I said, location neutral. |
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jeffbright
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Yahoo.com
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yahoo korea
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Singapore, Singapore: Okay 90.9 94.8 103.4 119.161.9.182
Amsterdam2, Netherlands: Okay 330.5 339.3 345.8 119.161.9.182
Florida, U.S.A.: Okay 219.7 230.3 237.0 203.212.171.159
Amsterdam3, Netherlands: Okay 323.1 325.3 334.7 119.161.9.182
Hong Kong, China: Okay 38.9 39.7 40.6 203.212.171.159
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: Okay 325.3 346.2 370.7 203.212.171.159
Sydney, Australia: Okay 198.4 202.7 212.5 119.161.9.182
Munchen, Germany: Okay 302.7 309.7 338.9 203.212.171.159
Cologne, Germany: Okay 321.3 335.1 339.0 119.161.9.182
New York, U.S.A.: Okay 239.6 249.1 262.2 119.161.9.182
Stockholm, Sweden: Okay 332.1 332.5 333.6 119.161.9.182
Santa Clara, U.S.A.: Okay 150.1 152.5 161.7 119.161.9.182
Vancouver, Canada: Okay 123.9 141.2 165.3 203.212.171.159
Krakow, Poland: Okay 331.3 341.8 363.0 119.161.9.182
London, United Kingdom: Okay 323.9 326.4 328.3 203.212.171.159
Madrid, Spain: Okay 297.1 300.1 306.8 203.212.171.159
Padova, Italy: Okay 364.1 369.6 378.0 203.212.171.159
Austin, U.S.A.: Okay 209.0 213.3 220.9 203.212.171.159
Amsterdam, Netherlands: Okay 301.1 321.7 342.4 119.161.9.182
Paris, France: Okay 315.6 342.7 351.5 203.212.171.159
Melbourne, Australia: Packets lost (10%) 239.7 247.9 260.2 119.161.9.182
Shanghai, China: Okay 94.8 100.8 103.5 119.161.9.182
Copenhagen, Denmark: Okay 301.9 311.4 339.5 203.212.171.159
Lille, France: Okay 320.9 324.7 330.1 119.161.9.182
San Francisco, U.S.A.: Okay 159.8 164.0 170.0 119.161.9.182
Zurich, Switzerland: Okay 369.4 371.3 373.4 119.161.9.182
Mumbai, India: Okay 134.8 136.9 138.9 203.212.171.159
Chicago, U.S.A.: Okay 195.1 196.9 198.6 203.212.171.159
Johannesburg, South Africa: Okay 450.0 456.4 464.5 203.212.171.159
Nagano, Japan: Okay 36.1 37.8 40.3 119.161.9.182
Haifa, Israel: Okay 376.8 397.1 406.8 203.212.171.159
Auckland, New Zealand: Okay 219.0 222.6 225.6 119.161.9.182
Antwerp, Belgium: Packets lost (10%) 309.2 326.3 343.8 203.212.171.159
Groningen, Netherlands: Okay 302.2 303.6 305.4 119.161.9.182
Moscow, Russia: Okay 366.0 377.1 401.2 203.212.171.159
Dublin, Ireland: Okay 315.7 334.8 349.7 119.161.9.182
Oslo, Norway: Okay 354.0 356.1 360.7 203.212.171.159
Odessa, Ukraine: Okay 354.8 361.6 393.4 203.212.171.159
Manchester, United Kingdom: Okay 325.9 328.8 332.3 119.161.9.182
Vilnius, Lithuania: Okay 431.7 468.0 514.7 119.161.9.182
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Singapore, Singapore: Okay 251.1 252.2 253.3 209.191.93.53
Amsterdam2, Netherlands: Okay 120.7 122.5 124.3 69.147.114.224
Florida, U.S.A.: Okay 29.5 29.9 31.5 69.147.114.224
Amsterdam3, Netherlands: Okay 155.0 155.7 156.4 209.131.36.159
Hong Kong, China: Okay 228.7 230.0 231.2 69.147.114.224
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil: Okay 144.1 144.3 144.4 209.191.93.53
Sydney, Australia: Okay 198.3 199.3 200.3 209.191.93.53
Munchen, Germany: Okay 146.2 146.7 147.5 209.191.93.53
Cologne, Germany: Okay 190.4 191.0 192.3 209.131.36.159
New York, U.S.A.: Okay 14.5 14.7 15.0 69.147.114.224
Stockholm, Sweden: Okay 200.4 207.1 212.4 209.131.36.159
Santa Clara, U.S.A.: Okay 88.7 92.6 96.6 69.147.114.224
Vancouver, Canada: Okay 70.9 71.3 71.8 209.191.93.53
Krakow, Poland: Okay 217.5 218.3 219.6 209.131.36.159
London, United Kingdom: Okay 156.7 157.6 158.1 209.131.36.159
Madrid, Spain: Okay 163.1 165.5 180.5 209.131.36.159
Padova, Italy: Okay 154.9 156.7 159.9 209.191.93.53
Austin, U.S.A.: Okay 52.0 52.4 53.2 209.131.36.159
Amsterdam, Netherlands: Okay 92.5 92.7 92.8 69.147.114.224
Paris, France: Okay 80.8 80.9 80.9 69.147.114.224
Melbourne, Australia: Okay 237.6 242.2 246.5 69.147.114.224
Shanghai, China: Packets lost (50%) 207.6 209.7 211.8 209.131.36.159
Copenhagen, Denmark: Okay 136.2 136.5 137.4 209.191.93.53
Lille, France: Okay 113.9 114.5 115.4 209.191.93.53
San Francisco, U.S.A.: Okay 2.1 2.5 4.3 209.131.36.159
Zurich, Switzerland: Okay 152.0 152.2 152.3 209.191.93.53
Mumbai, India: Okay 234.9 235.6 236.9 209.131.36.159
Chicago, U.S.A.: Okay 29.1 29.9 30.3 69.147.114.224
Johannesburg, South Africa: Okay 348.9 349.3 351.4 69.147.114.224
Nagano, Japan: Okay 180.8 182.0 183.1 69.147.114.224
Haifa, Israel: Okay 243.1 245.0 248.8 209.191.93.53
Auckland, New Zealand: Okay 137.5 138.1 139.2 209.131.36.159
Antwerp, Belgium: Okay 162.9 163.9 164.8 209.131.36.159
Groningen, Netherlands: Okay 90.6 91.1 92.1 69.147.114.224
Moscow, Russia: Okay 175.2 175.6 176.3 209.191.93.53
Dublin, Ireland: Okay 111.2 111.6 111.8 69.147.114.224
Oslo, Norway: Okay 191.3 191.9 193.0 209.131.36.159
Odessa, Ukraine: Okay 128.7 129.2 129.7 69.147.114.224
Manchester, United Kingdom: Packets lost (10%) 89.3 91.6 93.3 69.147.114.224
Vilnius, Lithuania: Okay 382.7 408.0 437.7 209.131.36.159
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tfunk

Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:39 am Post subject: |
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A lot depends on the type of website. A video streaming service would benefit from being closer to the source.
A very simple website, with a few images etc. won't benefit much (fractions of a second). There are a lot of different ways to optimize your website's speed, having your site closer to source isn't usually that effective.
You could also think about hosting some of your files on cheap Korean servers. |
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Scouse Mouse
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Location: Cloud #9
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: |
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I use Mireene for all of my sites. Their shared hosting package is awesome, and great unless you have very high traffic. The basic package is something like 1Gb storage, 1Gb daily bandwidth. It costs w22,000 per YEAR!
I run AFEK from one account, and my blog from another. The only time I had a problem was when I posted a GN'R review last week and it got linked all over the world. I had thousands of hits and it sucked up my bandwidth, but I had 3 bandwidth reset tokens to use. One of them cleared my daily bandwidth instantly and it was back to business as usual.
22,000 per year. Nothing comes close, and you can upgrade (double your bandwidth for 2,000 per month, etc.
Now... it sucks for email (1 address I think), but you can have GMail host that for you and get 50 email address @yourdomain for free. Awesome value for money! |
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Scouse Mouse
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Location: Cloud #9
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:15 am Post subject: |
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I should add... the site is all in Korean, but you can sign up with your foreigner ID number, and you can pay by bank transfer.
www.mireene.com |
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jeffbright
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Scouse Mouse wrote: |
I should add... the site is all in Korean, but you can sign up with your foreigner ID number, and you can pay by bank transfer.
www.mireene.com |
I have tried many hosting companies in Korea .
Just call them and ask them if they will allow a simple "Cron Job"
They say NO! you need a dedicated server for this
As your website grows you find out you can't go on.
Internet brothers is the only company I know that gives English control panel like many US companies.
LOOK here
http://www.internetbrothers.co.kr/webpromotion/english/hosting-control-panel-korea.html
Billing management, Help Desk all in English.
They are using the same level of ticket system as SKYPE does.
That means they have invested on this. |
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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I've gone through a lot of hosts.
Right now, I use Rackspace Cloud, Amazon AWS, Fluid Hosting and Site5 for my English sites.
If you're going to be hosting a site targeted at Koreans, you should have it hosted in Korea. If you're going to have a site targeted towards Americans, host it in America.
I've been through a lot of hosts in Korea (Gabia, Whois, Smileserve and iHeart) and if you're on a budget, I would recommend Smileserve's CoreHost product.
http://www.1000dedi.net/docs/renew/core_host/core_host01_01.htm
An important note is, you will have to know how to manage your server on your own (it's not really that difficult but takes a bit of time to learn). Plans start at 15,000 won per month. You don't have to worry about PHP memory limits or issues you get at other hosting plans at that price level. It's like having a dedicated server from the standpoint of being able to configure everything to your needs. On the downside, it is almost completely unmanaged (you will have to know what you're doing or be willing to learn).
If you have a bit more money to spend, I have a dedicated server with iHeart and haven't had any complaints thus far. |
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Are you affiliated with them by any chance?
I actually checked you guys out (via posting at webhostingtalk.com) but ultimately passed due to pricing and your web site design. I know hosting service quality is more important than how your site looks but I will say, a redesign wouldn't hurt. Not trying to flame or anything... just trying to offer feedback. |
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jeffbright
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:06 am Post subject: |
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I agree with you about the design.
I know this company for a long time , I have a number of sites hosted by them.
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jeffbright
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:11 am Post subject: |
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I agree with you I think they need to care a little more about the design .
Because people just see a website design and unless they use a service they do not know
I have a few sites hosted by them right now and very satisfied. |
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jeffbright
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:19 am Post subject: |
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victorology wrote: |
If you're going to be hosting a site targeted at Koreans, you should have it hosted in Korea.
An important note is, you will have to know how to manage your server on your own (it's not really that difficult but takes a bit of time to learn). Plans start at 15,000 won per month. |
I think you understood what I mean.
The host you mentioned does not have English control panel for shared hosting and I am sure most people need that.
One other thing on a shared hosting in Korea still a lot of companies use EUC Kr for database . Recently some give you an option but again for a shared hosting you need to have a standard control panel just in case one day you grow and want to move it to some where else.
That is another reason I recommend Internet brothers.
I want to help them with their business they have been supporting me a lot over the years. |
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