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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject: Korean teens communicate in "rude code" swearing |
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http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/01/16/2010011600221.html
I believe it. Kids are a bunch of potty-mouths these days.
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Korean teenagers are developing their own language of slang and cyber jargon. In a recent survey of 512 teachers nationwide by the Korea Federation of Teachers' Association in October, 75 percent of respondents said slang and four-letter words make up half of the sentences students speak. Some 20 percent said that slang and swearwords are up to 70 percent of conversations between students... |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Considering my elementary school kids are in love with the Chinese symbol for concave up and minor Korean swear words. Doesn't surprise me one bit. |
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sulperman
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Schools here have ABSOLUTELY no standards when it comes to swearing in class. Not to sound like an old man, but when I was in school if you said one bad word you were out to the principal's office, and if you did it consistently you were in serious trouble.
But here kids will swear all class long in Korean and English and the teachers ALL seem completely oblivious. Not just the mild bad words, but all the worst stuff. Even my youngest (27 or so) Korean coworker doesn't seem to know 1/10th as many Korean swears as I do. Either that or, like all the other teachers, she just doesn't care.
Is it possible to be that oblivious? Or are all my coworkers afraid of actually having to discipline kids?
Very strange. |
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aishiii
Joined: 24 Apr 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Or are all my coworkers afraid of actually having to discipline kids?
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This. It's more trouble for them than it's worth.
Back home if a kid is swearing in class and little Bobby comes home and tells his folks about it, they are going to phone the school and rip the teacher a new one. But here nobody cares. Getting a good job and making good money is all that matters and other things like ethics, morals, character, manners, etc. have no importance. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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How old are you guys? Students swear all the time, in every country. If there was one thing that was 100% universal, kids swearing is it.
I finished high school in the mid-90's in Canada and swearing was very common. As long as it wasn't directed towards a teacher they didn't really care.
The students here swear to each other, but I've rarely hear it directed towards a teacher when the teacher was present. The one case, I witnessed, a boy swore at an older female teacher. Just say that that teacher gave him a black eye and the kid's mother was crying and apologizing to the teacher at the end of the day. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| aishiii wrote: |
| Getting a good job and making good money is all that matters and other things like ethics, morals, character, manners, etc. have no importance. |
Judging from your posts I can see why you think that. |
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kinerry
Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| aishiii wrote: |
| Getting a good job and making good money is all that matters and other things like ethics, morals, character, manners, etc. have no importance. |
Judging from your posts I can see why you think that. |
Hate to break this to you, but that's the truth everywhere, you can't change human nature (well, not without a few million years of evolution). |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| kinerry wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| aishiii wrote: |
| Getting a good job and making good money is all that matters and other things like ethics, morals, character, manners, etc. have no importance. |
Judging from your posts I can see why you think that. |
Hate to break this to you, but that's the truth everywhere, you can't change human nature (well, not without a few million years of evolution). |
Hate to break this to you...but not everyone thinks like that. And you should be quoting aishiii...he was the one that said this specifically applied to Koreans. |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| aishiii wrote: |
| sulperman wrote: |
Or are all my coworkers afraid of actually having to discipline kids?
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This. It's more trouble for them than it's worth.
Back home if a kid is swearing in class and little Bobby comes home and tells his folks about it, they are going to phone the school and rip the teacher a new one. But here nobody cares. Getting a good job and making good money is all that matters and other things like ethics, morals, character, manners, etc. have no importance. |
I went to school with a lot of people that said just that. No matter what I told them. Most of em make 5-8x more than me even if you factor living expenses and low taxes. But, they're all miserable.
Money can't buy everything. When you get older, you'll figure that out. |
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kinerry
Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| kinerry wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| aishiii wrote: |
| Getting a good job and making good money is all that matters and other things like ethics, morals, character, manners, etc. have no importance. |
Judging from your posts I can see why you think that. |
Hate to break this to you, but that's the truth everywhere, you can't change human nature (well, not without a few million years of evolution). |
Hate to break this to you...but not everyone thinks like that. And you should be quoting aishiii...he was the one that said this specifically applied to Koreans. |
Well yes, that's a given, but we can't go counting that fraction of a percent that don't.
Take a sociology class sometime. We all only have one real goal in life, and that's to pass our genetics on. All other goals are to help with the attainment of that goal. In the grand scheme of things, most of what you do doesn't really matter, and "morals, ethics, character and manners" are all really just a means to make you feel like you actually matter in the world.
Morals, ethics and character are subjective anyway, and manners...manners are about the most useless thing invented. Manners are arbitrary rules set but the upper and middle classes to keep the poor from rising the socioeconomic ladder. Most of them have no actual purpose. |
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