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Evanzinho
Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: Why are there so many jobs in Korea compared to... |
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neighboring countries?
I desperately want to get off this cold, frigid rock called Korea and teach somewhere else. My preference would be Taiwan, but the pay is lower there and you don't get the benefits that you get here in Korea, for example airfare, apartment, etc. Also, the maket there seems to be extremely flooded at the moment, which doesn't really make sense to me because of the lower pay and benefits compared to Korea.
Japan would be cool too, but the start up costs combined with the cost of living once you get a job look terrible. Again, it looks like there's a flooded market there as well.
So, why does Korea have so many more job openings than these two countries? Korea offers more pay (usually) and the benefits can't be beat. Is it just because no one wants to come to Korea, or is their zeal for learning English more here than in Taiwan or Japan?
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Olivencia
Joined: 08 Mar 2009
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Korea is simply the best in the ESL industry hand down. Taiwan is garbage pay while Japan is a rip-off for almost everything. Not worth it.
Koreans know more than the others of the value and extreme importance of ESL education so they are willing to go the extra steps to allure more people here. |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: Why are there so many jobs in Korea compared to... |
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So, why does Korea have so many more job openings than these two countries? |
a) few foreigners can stick it here.So there are always new vacancies.
b) Koreans are not good at learning english..so they always need more teachers.
c) Korea has a greater obsession with english than neighbouring countries.
But if you can find your niche and a way to enjoy being here...then its a gold mine for you. |
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SeoulMan99

Joined: 02 Aug 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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I have spent time in Taiwan, and actually the straight up pay is similar to Korea. As a new teacher there you will make around $2000 American a month, posibly more if you get a decent job. Of course rent isn't included in that though, but rent was pretty damn cheap there (even in Taipei). The thing about Taiwan is that you have initial set-up costs that you don't have in Korea since the school takes care of you, but in Taiwan you can start pulling away from the pay in Korea in the second year from what I saw. You can work privates and a second job for the most part without fear of prosecution. I know a couple guys there who work a ton and are bringing in $4000 American a month.
I loved Taiwan. If you have the money then I would recommend it. Only go to Taipei though (try Da'an area). It is true that Taiwan is overly saturated because of fewer jobs and less teachers leaving due to the global economy. SK has twice the population so there will be more jobs than in comparison to Taiwan. Other reasons I'm not sure. I don't know about Japan.
I will say that most people I met there really liked it, and you didn't see people complaining about the place like you see people constantly complaining about Korea. The people there were generally nice, and it was easy to mingle and make friends with Taiwanese people. |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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SeoulMan99 wrote: |
in Taiwan you can start pulling away from the pay in Korea in the second year from what I saw. You can work privates and a second job for the most part without fear of prosecution. I know a couple guys there who work a ton and are bringing in $4000 American a month.
I loved Taiwan.
most people I met there really liked it, and you didn't see people complaining about the place like you see people constantly complaining about Korea. The people there were generally nice, and it was easy to mingle and make friends with Taiwanese people. |
So then why did you come back to Korea? |
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SeoulMan99

Joined: 02 Aug 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Julius wrote: |
SeoulMan99 wrote: |
in Taiwan you can start pulling away from the pay in Korea in the second year from what I saw. You can work privates and a second job for the most part without fear of prosecution. I know a couple guys there who work a ton and are bringing in $4000 American a month.
I loved Taiwan.
most people I met there really liked it, and you didn't see people complaining about the place like you see people constantly complaining about Korea. The people there were generally nice, and it was easy to mingle and make friends with Taiwanese people. |
So then why did you come back to Korea? |
Not by choice. Like I said the market was saturated. I turned down a job because it was in the sticks and happened to be there outside of the main hiring times during the worst economy decades and I couldn't get a job that was satisfactory to me. Trust me, I'd be there over Korea if I had the choice. I'm a new teacher. I didn't go there with any experience. That hurt me a lot. |
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kinerry
Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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You think this is cold?
Half of the US is worse, all of Canada is worse, the UK is worse.
Are you from Australia or South Africa? |
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Sadebugo1
Joined: 11 May 2003
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:15 am Post subject: Re: Why are there so many jobs in Korea compared to... |
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Evanzinho wrote: |
neighboring countries?
I desperately want to get off this cold, frigid rock called Korea and teach somewhere else. My preference would be Taiwan, but the pay is lower there and you don't get the benefits that you get here in Korea, for example airfare, apartment, etc. Also, the maket there seems to be extremely flooded at the moment, which doesn't really make sense to me because of the lower pay and benefits compared to Korea.
Japan would be cool too, but the start up costs combined with the cost of living once you get a job look terrible. Again, it looks like there's a flooded market there as well.
So, why does Korea have so many more job openings than these two countries? Korea offers more pay (usually) and the benefits can't be beat. Is it just because no one wants to come to Korea, or is their zeal for learning English more here than in Taiwan or Japan?
Any ideas? |
Believe me, it's not generosity. It's the same reason that, on average, salaries are higher in Saudi Arabia. They have to pay more to retain their teachers because of quality of life issues. If salaries/benefits were the same in Thailand as Korea, which country would you and most others be living in?
Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/ |
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fustiancorduroy
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:24 am Post subject: Re: Why are there so many jobs in Korea compared to... |
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Sadebugo1 wrote: |
Believe me, it's not generosity. It's the same reason that, on average, salaries are higher in Saudi Arabia. They have to pay more to retain their teachers because of quality of life issues. If salaries/benefits were the same in Thailand as Korea, which country would you and most others be living in? |
Taiwan has better weather than Korea, sure, but is it much better in other ways? Doesn't seem like it to me. I only visited there for a few days, and Taipei was nice, but not markedly better than Seoul. And most of the Taiwanese people I met, mostly during college, were not that interesting to talk to... certainly not more interesting and friendly than most Koreans. But this is just my experience.
I've never been to Saudi Arabia, but I'd imagine it is much harder to adjust to life there than in Korea. I think Korea is quite all right. And I'd take living here over living in Thailand, hands down. |
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Sadebugo1
Joined: 11 May 2003
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:32 am Post subject: Re: Why are there so many jobs in Korea compared to... |
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fustiancorduroy wrote: |
Sadebugo1 wrote: |
Believe me, it's not generosity. It's the same reason that, on average, salaries are higher in Saudi Arabia. They have to pay more to retain their teachers because of quality of life issues. If salaries/benefits were the same in Thailand as Korea, which country would you and most others be living in? |
Taiwan has better weather than Korea, sure, but is it much better in other ways? Doesn't seem like it to me. I only visited there for a few days, and Taipei was nice, but not markedly better than Seoul. And most of the Taiwanese people I met, mostly during college, were not that interesting to talk to... certainly not more interesting and friendly than most Koreans. But this is just my experience.
I've never been to Saudi Arabia, but I'd imagine it is much harder to adjust to life there than in Korea. I think Korea is quite all right. And I'd take living here over living in Thailand, hands down. |
Actually, I left Korea for Saudi Arabia years ago and liked the latter much better although it obviously has its problems. Had I been a woman though, I probably would not have liked it so much.
Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/ |
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