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Breaking the EPIK contract..?!?! HELP
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xratnqmx



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:56 pm    Post subject: Breaking the EPIK contract..?!?! HELP Reply with quote

I am currently working in a public school with EPIK. Im leaving 6 months early in August and plan to put in the 30 day notice as stated in the contract. Does anyone know if they will screw me out of my last months pay at all? Or screw me out of my summer vacation time? Any advice would be much appreciated!!
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Senior



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are giving a months notice, you aren't breaking the contract.

You should be OK.
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oldfatfarang



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please keep us posted - especially if your paid after you leave Korea.
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xratnqmx



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha great.. im the guinea pig!
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ttompatz



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Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cross posted here:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=181731

xratnqmx wrote:

Im currently teaching at a public school with Epik. Im planning on leaving after 6 months and putting in the 30 days notice as stated in the contract. Can they somehow screw me out of my last months pay? Does anyone know of anybody who has also left EPIK early?? Any advice would be much appreciated



Yes, they can cause you grief.

A word of advice, if you want the minimum of problems regarding deductions in your last month, wait till you complete your 6th month and give your 30 days notice as required.

They may piss and moan but they can't go after your inbound airfare or settlement allowance. You will get your deposit back.

If you give notice before the 6 month mark you will have a fight over it because they may consider that you haven't completed your 6 months. It is a crock but will cause problems.

If you are planning to leave or give notice during your first 3 months, just leave the day after payday but don't plan on working in Korea for the next year. Don't give notice - it will do you no good and will make your last month more miserable than it already is.

Sorry it didn't work out for you.

Side issues:

IF you are leaving to take up a new job in Korea:
a) you will need a full set of documents again.
b) EPIK won't release you. You will have to go to immigration and tell them that you quit, get an exit order then apply for your new visa. When you get the new confirmation number, jump to Japan for your visa run and start your new job.

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oldfatfarang



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
cross posted here:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=181731

xratnqmx wrote:

Im currently teaching at a public school with Epik. Im planning on leaving after 6 months and putting in the 30 days notice as stated in the contract. Can they somehow screw me out of my last months pay? Does anyone know of anybody who has also left EPIK early?? Any advice would be much appreciated





Side issues:

IF you are leaving to take up a new job in Korea:
a) you will need a full set of documents again.
b) EPIK won't release you. You will have to go to immigration and tell them that you quit, get an exit order then apply for your new visa. When you get the new confirmation number, jump to Japan for your visa run and start your new job.

.


Great advice.

Do you mean that you have to go to Immigration immediately you give notice, or only advise them if/when you come back to Korea at the end of the contract date?
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
cross posted here:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=181731

xratnqmx wrote:

Im currently teaching at a public school with Epik. Im planning on leaving after 6 months and putting in the 30 days notice as stated in the contract. Can they somehow screw me out of my last months pay? Does anyone know of anybody who has also left EPIK early?? Any advice would be much appreciated





Side issues:

IF you are leaving to take up a new job in Korea:
a) you will need a full set of documents again.
b) EPIK won't release you. You will have to go to immigration and tell them that you quit, get an exit order then apply for your new visa. When you get the new confirmation number, jump to Japan for your visa run and start your new job.

.


Great advice.

Do you mean that you have to go to Immigration immediately you give notice, or only advise them if/when you come back to Korea at the end of the contract date?


IF you want to ensure that your visa is indeed canceled so you can return BEFORE the year is up then you MUST:

go to immigration within 14 days of leaving your employment, (after you quit working)
tell them that you quit,
GET AN EXIT ORDER (ensures that they actually did cancel the visa)
and
then you have until the date of the exit order to find a new job and do a visa run.

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bde2



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]

IF you want to ensure that your visa is indeed canceled so you can return BEFORE the year is up then you MUST:

go to immigration within 14 days of leaving your employment, (after you quit working)
tell them that you quit,
GET AN EXIT ORDER (ensures that they actually did cancel the visa)
and
then you have until the date of the exit order to find a new job and do a visa run.

.[/quote]

So, is there no need for a letter of release in this situation?
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bde2 wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
IF you want to ensure that your visa is indeed canceled so you can return BEFORE the year is up then you MUST:

go to immigration within 14 days of leaving your employment, (after you quit working)
tell them that you quit,
GET AN EXIT ORDER (ensures that they actually did cancel the visa)
and
then you have until the date of the exit order to find a new job and do a visa run.

.


So, is there no need for a letter of release in this situation?


IF you want to transfer from one school to another you DO need the LOR.

IF you want to quit, LEAVE, return and begin work again with a NEW visa then you do NOT need the LOR provided your visa was canceled (by getting the exit order).

In the specific case of this thread, EPIK will NOT grant a LOR so the OP or others in the same boat will need to quit, notify immigration AFTER they have finished work, get the exit order, find a job, do a visa run and start again from scratch.
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bde2



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clearing up all the particulars, ttompatz. Much appreciated.
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oldfatfarang



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info.
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xratnqmx



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok..BUT im not switching schools or anything. My job is very nice..great co teachers and a good principal. I'm just not happy here and know Im going to leave in 6 months and am not worried about coming back. I just dont want them screwing me out of my settlement allowance. Does anyone know of anybody who left the program EPIK early to go home and did they get screwed over?
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xratnqmx wrote:
Ok..BUT im not switching schools or anything. My job is very nice..great co teachers and a good principal. I'm just not happy here and know Im going to leave in 6 months and am not worried about coming back. I just dont want them screwing me out of my settlement allowance. Does anyone know of anybody who left the program EPIK early to go home and did they get screwed over?


1st reply, 2nd paragraph.

IF you give notice BEFORE your 6th month is complete you WILL PROBABLY have issues over money. You can almost count on it. Even if you are working up to or past your 6th month mark in their eyes you quit at 5 months.

If you give your notice 1 day AFTER your 6th month date then you are fine because in THEIR eyes you have completed 6 months.

If you really are unhappy now ... wait till payday and leave

or read up on culture shock.

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am actually thinking of doing the same thing, or maybe even leaving before my six month mark. Actually, it will be my 1.5 yr mark. I just don't know if I will get my pension back if I leave early. I also heard that I have to pay back some of my resigning bonus, like 800,000 if i leave early?
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mandolyn wrote:
i am actually thinking of doing the same thing, or maybe even leaving before my six month mark. Actually, it will be my 1.5 yr mark. I just don't know if I will get my pension back if I leave early. I also heard that I have to pay back some of my resigning bonus, like 800,000 if i leave early?


IF you are from one of the countries that qualify for the NPS pension refund then you will get it regardless of how or when you quit.

Yes, if you leave before the 6 month mark of your new contract you will have to repay 1/2 the re-signing bonus.

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