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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Ability man Reply with quote

I hear this so often in conversation classes but I never know how to correct it.

so they're describing their perfect man, and the main requirement is he must have "ability" or be an "ability man". What would you say we use in English?

If we are talking about a student still and he is going to work in the future, I say use " he has potential", but I'm not sure that's right.
He's a good provider?
But if I understand correctly, ability means more than providing material goods, no? It means smart, educated, good family AND well-off?

How about "gold miss"? Independent woman?

Sometimes they stump me Smile
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Steve_Rogers2008



Joined: 22 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"He's a regular Chuck Norris!"

Or to a lesser degree, a competent man.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competent_man
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hamie



Joined: 27 Nov 2009
Location: The middle of nowhere Korea

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rich man!
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jugbandjames



Joined: 15 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are those who believe there isn't a direct translation between every idea in each language. The real challenge is properly understanding the word in its original language. You're unlikely to find a good translation unless someone knows this particular Korean expression.

Chigity-checkout the Sapir-Warf hypothesis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir%E2%80%93Whorf_hypothesis
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jugbandjames



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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While a competent man might be common in film production, it's a technical term that is not pervasive in the general vocabulary.
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jugbandjames wrote:
There are those who believe there isn't a direct translation between every idea in each language. The real challenge is properly understanding the word in its original language. You're unlikely to find a good translation unless someone knows this particular Korean expression.

Chigity-checkout the Sapir-Warf hypothesis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir%E2%80%93Whorf_hypothesis


Yes I agree, it's not possible to have direct translation for everything. That's why I explain that context is important when they ask "what is the English for ...?" and that ... gasp ... dictionaries get it wrong too sometimes Smile

But I thought we may have had an equivalent for this one.
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hamie wrote:
Rich man!


lol perhaps that is the best translation for what they're actually looking for Razz
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Lynns



Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talented
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Steve_Rogers2008



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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jugbandjames wrote:
While a competent man might be common in film production, it's a technical term that is not pervasive in the general vocabulary.


But we can agree that the most interesting man in the world is a competent man?
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take a stab:

They are interested in a "Professional" - someone who is well-educated in a profession and capable of earning an upper middle class income.

Gold Miss is much harder for me. It is an older, single, professional woman who does not want to marry. We'd probably make some kind of acronym for such a person such as Yuppy or DINK but I don't know what we'd make of older, single, professional woman who does not want to marry.

Ahh... the art of translation.
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Adam Carolla



Joined: 26 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unposter wrote:
I'll take a stab:

They are interested in a "Professional" - someone who is well-educated in a profession and capable of earning an upper middle class income.

Gold Miss is much harder for me. It is an older, single, professional woman who does not want to marry. We'd probably make some kind of acronym for such a person such as Yuppy or DINK but I don't know what we'd make of older, single, professional woman who does not want to marry.

Ahh... the art of translation.


Sounds like a typical "career woman" to me.
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! Good call Adam! Career woman works well. Thanks!
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't know a "gold miss" never wanted to marry.

I thought she was just postponing it. Guess I learned something new Smile
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used the phrase "go-getter," as in, he's a real go-getter. From what I understand, an "ability man" is a person who demonstrates an aptitude in a variety of different areas, and can "get the job done." I have also used the term "jack-of-all-trades," but in English I think that carries the other half of the phrase "master of none," whereas the Korean does not carry the same connotation of a shortfall. If I feel like teaching allusion, I have introduced "MacGuyver," but this shows my age and background, and is by no means universally understood, even in the US....

I don't think any of these are spot-on, but they have been the approximations I have used.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Able bodied? --classically used as 'physically strong and healthy'.
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