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Incheon Int'l Airport Corp. shafted Korean air travellers
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject: Incheon Int'l Airport Corp. shafted Korean air travellers Reply with quote

Incheon International Airport Corporation shafted Korean air travelers when they rejected Air Asia's bid and gave the landing rights they controlled to KAL. The discount airline that KAL created, Jin Air, flies to all of two destinations and their fares offer little discount off of KAL fares. Also, their English website won't accept Korean bank cards.

Why do Koreans settle for this crap?
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't care the English website don't accept Korean cards, because English is not necessary for domestic business to transact and other international dealings catering to Koreans. They are proudly happy to work more and pay extra in support of their country including the 2 airlines and all of it's supporters, producers, and suppliers. The Koreans really have a very different outlook on life than we Westerners do. A proud ethic of getting up early every day to work hard and pay it all out in support of their country increasing it's wealth. For most, there is no me me me, what about me and my money, I deserve cheaper bargain deals. The higher prices and limited quantities of product and service is an inconvenience to us, but the Koreans don't see it that way. To them, now is the time every thing has ever been most plentiful and accessible to them. While that's true, it is slim selection and services from our perspective.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Incheon Int'l Airport Corp. shafted Korean air traveller Reply with quote

hari seldon wrote:
Also, their English website won't accept Korean bank cards.


I doubt your typical Korean cares if the English website won't accept Korean bank cards.
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Incheon Int'l Airport Corp. shafted Korean air traveller Reply with quote

Why would they care?

jvalmer wrote:
hari seldon wrote:
Also, their English website won't accept Korean bank cards.


I doubt your typical Korean cares if the English website won't accept Korean bank cards.
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: Incheon Int'l Airport Corp. shafted Korean air traveller Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
hari seldon wrote:
Also, their English website won't accept Korean bank cards.


I doubt your typical Korean cares if the English website won't accept Korean bank cards.
My two main points were: Jin Air flies to only two destinations and its fares are only slightly less than KAL. Air Asia, in contrast, flies to many destinations and steeply discounts its fares. The credit card issue is an additional nuisance that only affects expats with Korean bank cards.
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isisaredead



Joined: 18 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Incheon Int'l Airport Corp. shafted Korean air traveller Reply with quote

hari seldon wrote:
The credit card issue is an additional nuisance that only affects expats with Korean bank cards.


. . . of which we're, what, 2% of the entire homogenous korean population? not to be blunt, but who gives a crap?

as to your original question, koreans put up with it because they don't really know any better.

next.
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definitely maybe



Joined: 16 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
They don't care the English website don't accept Korean cards, because English is not necessary for domestic business to transact and other international dealings catering to Koreans. They are proudly happy to work more and pay extra in support of their country including the 2 airlines and all of it's supporters, producers, and suppliers. The Koreans really have a very different outlook on life than we Westerners do. A proud ethic of getting up early every day to work hard and pay it all out in support of their country increasing it's wealth. For most, there is no me me me, what about me and my money, I deserve cheaper bargain deals. The higher prices and limited quantities of product and service is an inconvenience to us, but the Koreans don't see it that way. To them, now is the time every thing has ever been most plentiful and accessible to them. While that's true, it is slim selection and services from our perspective.


I think you've missed the fact that most Koreans are not well-traveled outside of tightly regulated packages, are not proficient in foreign languages, and are not aware of a lot of the price discrepancies they face. Those who are aware of these issues are far from pleased. Your post reads like it could have been lifted from Arirang.
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tehdee



Joined: 01 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the o.p. has a valid point.

flying out of seoul is a complete pain in the ass, especially for someone who:

a) doesnt care to travel with 35 age 40+ koreans...
b) wants to arrive or depart on a red eye...

theres a complete absence of discount air options (such as air asia) and it s a complete duopoly amongst korean and asiana...
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samd



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
They don't care the English website don't accept Korean cards, because English is not necessary for domestic business to transact and other international dealings catering to Koreans. They are proudly happy to work more and pay extra in support of their country including the 2 airlines and all of it's supporters, producers, and suppliers. The Koreans really have a very different outlook on life than we Westerners do. A proud ethic of getting up early every day to work hard and pay it all out in support of their country increasing it's wealth. For most, there is no me me me, what about me and my money, I deserve cheaper bargain deals. The higher prices and limited quantities of product and service is an inconvenience to us, but the Koreans don't see it that way. To them, now is the time every thing has ever been most plentiful and accessible to them. While that's true, it is slim selection and services from our perspective.


Good post. Solid explanation of why Koreans are demanding this stuff(yet). Doesn't mean we shouldn't complain about it though.
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
They don't care the English website don't accept Korean cards, because English is not necessary for domestic business to transact and other international dealings catering to Koreans. They are proudly happy to work more and pay extra in support of their country including the 2 airlines and all of it's supporters, producers, and suppliers. The Koreans really have a very different outlook on life than we Westerners do. A proud ethic of getting up early every day to work hard and pay it all out in support of their country increasing it's wealth. For most, there is no me me me, what about me and my money, I deserve cheaper bargain deals. The higher prices and limited quantities of product and service is an inconvenience to us, but the Koreans don't see it that way. To them, now is the time every thing has ever been most plentiful and accessible to them. While that's true, it is slim selection and services from our perspective.
If that's the case, then why are Cebu Pacific's flights to Cebu in the Philippines jam packed with Koreans? They fly Cebu Pacific because like everybody else who isn't Bill Gates they want to save money on their air fare.
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AsiaESLbound



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hari seldon wrote:
AsiaESLbound wrote:
They don't care the English website don't accept Korean cards, because English is not necessary for domestic business to transact and other international dealings catering to Koreans. They are proudly happy to work more and pay extra in support of their country including the 2 airlines and all of it's supporters, producers, and suppliers. The Koreans really have a very different outlook on life than we Westerners do. A proud ethic of getting up early every day to work hard and pay it all out in support of their country increasing it's wealth. For most, there is no me me me, what about me and my money, I deserve cheaper bargain deals. The higher prices and limited quantities of product and service is an inconvenience to us, but the Koreans don't see it that way. To them, now is the time every thing has ever been most plentiful and accessible to them. While that's true, it is slim selection and services from our perspective.
If that's the case, then why are Cebu Pacific's flights to Cebu in the Philippines jam packed with Koreans? They fly Cebu Pacific because like everybody else who isn't Bill Gates they want to save money on their air fare.


550,000 to Manila, but a whopping 810,000 to Cebu. This was August 7th to the 15th I searched on their site as a sample Summer vacation. It's a foreign airline option, but not the bargain one would hope for. Maybe those Koreans are seeking a foreign experience to add to the adventure by going on a foreign airline? I can't see how I can save money here as it costs just as much, if not less to book elsewhere according to my searches. It's also an English speaking country so that offers very valuable experience to those trying to learn in attempt to get ahead in their careers. To me, it's only a convenience that isn't necessary as long as the locals are talented and friendly enough.
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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
550,000 to Manila, but a whopping 810,000 to Cebu. This was August 7th to the 15th I searched on their site as a sample Summer vacation.


Crazy.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hub of Asia my a--!
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which airline? Those sound like Korean Air fare amounts.

AsiaESLbound wrote:
hari seldon wrote:
AsiaESLbound wrote:
They don't care the English website don't accept Korean cards, because English is not necessary for domestic business to transact and other international dealings catering to Koreans. They are proudly happy to work more and pay extra in support of their country including the 2 airlines and all of it's supporters, producers, and suppliers. The Koreans really have a very different outlook on life than we Westerners do. A proud ethic of getting up early every day to work hard and pay it all out in support of their country increasing it's wealth. For most, there is no me me me, what about me and my money, I deserve cheaper bargain deals. The higher prices and limited quantities of product and service is an inconvenience to us, but the Koreans don't see it that way. To them, now is the time every thing has ever been most plentiful and accessible to them. While that's true, it is slim selection and services from our perspective.
If that's the case, then why are Cebu Pacific's flights to Cebu in the Philippines jam packed with Koreans? They fly Cebu Pacific because like everybody else who isn't Bill Gates they want to save money on their air fare.


550,000 to Manila, but a whopping 810,000 to Cebu. This was August 7th to the 15th I searched on their site as a sample Summer vacation. It's a foreign airline option, but not the bargain one would hope for. Maybe those Koreans are seeking a foreign experience to add to the adventure by going on a foreign airline? I can't see how I can save money here as it costs just as much, if not less to book elsewhere according to my searches. It's also an English speaking country so that offers very valuable experience to those trying to learn in attempt to get ahead in their careers. To me, it's only a convenience that isn't necessary as long as the locals are talented and friendly enough.
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vsiddy



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
They don't care the English website don't accept Korean cards, because English is not necessary for domestic business to transact and other international dealings catering to Koreans. They are proudly happy to work more and pay extra in support of their country including the 2 airlines and all of it's supporters, producers, and suppliers. The Koreans really have a very different outlook on life than we Westerners do. A proud ethic of getting up early every day to work hard and pay it all out in support of their country increasing it's wealth. For most, there is no me me me, what about me and my money, I deserve cheaper bargain deals. The higher prices and limited quantities of product and service is an inconvenience to us, but the Koreans don't see it that way. To them, now is the time every thing has ever been most plentiful and accessible to them. While that's true, it is slim selection and services from our perspective.


Wait! Is ROK a capitalist country, or a communist country? Or a unusual hybrid of the both?
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