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Babies are for cribs, not for classes..in Korea or elsewhere
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air76



Joined: 13 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: Babies are for cribs, not for classes..in Korea or elsewhere Reply with quote

Fortunately this was not in my class....but one of the students at the university has been bringing her baby to class this last week because of child care issues or something. A proper baby, maybe 6 months old or something like that...I was in my office yesterday and heard the baby crying and screaming and I couldn't help but laugh and be happy that I wasn't trying to teach a university course over the top of a screaming food disposal unit.

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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aww, babies are cute! I wanna teach with a baby in the class, but since I teach Middle School, probably isn't going to happen... although I did get to meet a student's baby brother (awwwwww!)
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously. This is weird for Korea.

It happens all the time in NZ.
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one in my class in a hagwon, a Korean class.

She got special permission and she was polite enough to ask if it was okay when I joined the class. She was there before me, so regardless of my feelings, I felt she had the right.

In a public institution, sorry. No.
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Dragoon



Joined: 18 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: ONLY in Korea....baby in the classroom... Reply with quote

air76 wrote:
Fortunately this was not in my class....but one of the students at the university has been bringing her baby to class this last week because of child care issues or something. A proper baby, maybe 6 months old or something like that...I was in my office yesterday and heard the baby crying and screaming and I couldn't help but laugh and be happy that I wasn't trying to teach a university course over the top of a screaming food disposal unit.


I can understand how you feel bro. Before I had all my damn kids...I thought kids...especially babies were a pain in the azz. 3 kids later I'm able to sympathize with those with babies...I'd like to bring my kids with me to work places too.....but I know how many people who never had kids feel about kids..so I usually don't.

(wow I just read this and it sounds like crap...still gonna post it regardless..I'm too far in to back out now.)
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP- You've never been to a classroom in America have you?
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thegadfly



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching in a US high school, I had a 9th grade student breastfeeding her child during class -- and she was offended when I suggested she leave the front row of class to do so...I wasn't even kicking her out, just asking her to sit in the back of the row until she was done -- she was hard to see around, and was a distraction.

In US university classes, my evening class usually had one or two babies -- babysitters are not always reliable. If they cried or fussed too much, I asked the mother to take the child out....

No, not "only in Korea," not by a long shot....
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kinerry



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thegadfly wrote:
Teaching in a US high school, I had a 9th grade student breastfeeding her child during class -- and she was offended when I suggested she leave the front row of class to do so...I wasn't even kicking her out, just asking her to sit in the back of the row until she was done -- she was hard to see around, and was a distraction.

In US university classes, my evening class usually had one or two babies -- babysitters are not always reliable. If they cried or fussed too much, I asked the mother to take the child out....

No, not "only in Korea," not by a long shot....


There's specific policy in most public schools and universities that children are not allowed in classrooms. They can make exceptions with approval of the dean in certain situations, but that's about it.

No way in hell they are going to risk bothering a bunch of paying customers, they'd rather make the person with the baby quit.
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My co-teacher has her 1st grader hang out from 2:30 to 5 each day. Even on the day she doesn't teach, her son still shows up. The problem with this is he's a distraction as cute as he is. He gets bored, makes noise, runs in circles, and if I'm sitting, he's too interested in what I'm doing with my computer where he climbs on my back.

I think it's unprofessional due to the distractions to baby sit at work or during a college class, especially if you aren't present or are too occupied to actually baby sit the child. It's unfair to your classmates and co-workers just as your ringing cell phone is. Baby sitting doesn't just involve supervision, it also requires entertaining or engaging the kid in activities to keep them on good terms. I'd say it's inappropriate in most any country to lug a baby or young child into a college class or to your job. Sure in 3rd world countries mothers do work and everything with the babies in tow, but that's different.
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thegadfly wrote:
No, not "only in Korea," not by a long shot....

No kidding. I've had fellow classmates (uni AND high school) bring their babies to class. Teachers, profs and (when I became part of the staff) co-workers have done it too. And this is going back 15-25 years.
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Aelric



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I can name at least three classes in college where folks brought their ids in due to babysitters canceling last minute and not being able to afford daycare. Heck, in a photography class I had, an older lady brought her 8 and 10 year olds to class and they just chilled out in the back while we did our critiques. Don't begrudge Korea or the people who do that, they wouldn't if they could help it. If it were me, I'd bring my kids in if I had too, no questions asked. I'm not leaving them alone and I'm not gonna fail a class because I missed a lecture or assignment deadline. Better to temporarily annoy a few other people than potentially cripple your future.
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air76



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
To the OP- You've never been to a classroom in America have you?


Not for the last decade, no. Before that every single one of my classroom experiences would have been in America, and I never once saw a baby there.

I stand corrected if this is common practice elsewhere, but I was flabbergasted that someone would be allowed to disrupt the entire class just because they chose to procreate. I have no sympathy for those with babies. It is a choice to have a baby, not a right nor an obligation. Personally I fixed this anatomical flaw surgically so I don't have to worry about ever spawning a money eating, screaming and pooping rug rat.
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

air76 wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
To the OP- You've never been to a classroom in America have you?


Not for the last decade, no. Before that every single one of my classroom experiences would have been in America, and I never once saw a baby there.

I stand corrected if this is common practice elsewhere, but I was flabbergasted that someone would be allowed to disrupt the entire class just because they chose to procreate. I have no sympathy for those with babies. It is a choice to have a baby, not a right nor an obligation. Personally I fixed this anatomical flaw surgically so I don't have to worry about ever spawning a money eating, screaming and pooping rug rat.


Hope you remember this post when there's no one to push your wheelchair, or pay the taxes that make up your retirement.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

air76 wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
To the OP- You've never been to a classroom in America have you?


Not for the last decade, no. Before that every single one of my classroom experiences would have been in America, and I never once saw a baby there.

I stand corrected if this is common practice elsewhere, but I was flabbergasted that someone would be allowed to disrupt the entire class just because they chose to procreate. I have no sympathy for those with babies. It is a choice to have a baby, not a right nor an obligation. Personally I fixed this anatomical flaw surgically so I don't have to worry about ever spawning a money eating, screaming and pooping rug rat.


And you're a teacher?

Seriously, this babies/kids are worse than the plague mentality of our current generation suggests a deep moral fail.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was flabbergasted that someone would be allowed to disrupt the entire class just because they chose to procreate. I have no sympathy for those with babies. It is a choice to have a baby, not a right nor an obligation. Personally I fixed this anatomical flaw surgically so I don't have to worry about ever spawning a money eating, screaming and pooping rug rat
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This explains so many of your posts.
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