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therandom9
Joined: 10 May 2010
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: What Counts as Teaching Hours? |
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I realize this is a common question, and in past jobs I've been used to going in an hour early or so, staying a bit afterwards, and also doing extra work when we had to do student evaluations, team meetings, etc.
However in my current job the situation is different. I'm teaching at least 24 hours/week, and also being required to stay for 4-5 hours each day for extra help/preparation. And come in on Saturdays. Total time spent at the office is 50-60 hours/week. None of this counts as overtime.
My only question: are there any relevant labor laws about overtime? Obviously I would get fired if I brought this up, I'm just curious. |
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yfb
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Check your contract. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: What Counts as Teaching Hours? |
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therandom9 wrote: |
I'm teaching at least 24 hours/week, and also being required to stay for 4-5 hours each day for extra help/preparation. And come in on Saturdays. Total time spent at the office is 50-60 hours/week. None of this counts as overtime.
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You're kidding, right? |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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are you at a public school or hagwon? |
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Paladin Brewer
Joined: 25 Dec 2009
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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If you're at a public school, tell them no. My current school tried to get me to come in an hour early everyday, they said I should respect the culture. I told them no, my contract comes first. End of argument  |
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Steve_Rogers2008
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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my shrew of a coteacher tried to get me to come in on Saturdays the Korean teacher did at my PS last year...she was such a biotch I put my foot down and referenced the contract....
when she pulled the ol' "respect the culture" thing, I flipped it on her, and said,"Respect MY culture- the culture of capitalism and santicty of contracts! God gave us the first contract in the Bible- the 10 commandments!!!"
then I said a prayer to Donald Trump... either way, I never ended up working Saturdays. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Steve_Rogers2008 wrote: |
Respect MY culture- the culture of capitalism and santicty of contracts! God gave us the first contract in the Bible- the 10 commandments!!!"
then I said a prayer to Donald Trump... either way, I never ended up working Saturdays. |
Yep. Nothing like a big dose of crazy to keep Koreans at bay. |
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therandom9
Joined: 10 May 2010
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Interesting. This kinda sucks then. I'll probably have to start a "best way to get fired" thread in that case. |
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jonpurdy
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Location: Ulsan
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Firstly, PS or hagwon?
Secondly, check your contract. If it says no Saturdays then don't come in Saturdays. If it says 9-5 then you don't work before or after that. Quite simple, really. |
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wesharris
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Guys.
TROLL
Don't feed. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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But we must show compassion to the trolls. If we don't feed them, who will? They will have to rely on their meds, and these sometimes don't work (as they have habituated to them). And they sometimes forget to take them - and then there's no fun in their sad, silly little lives. So when we feed trolls , we are actually helping them, and making merit for ourselves.
Win. Win.
Good luck. |
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balzor

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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nomad-ish wrote: |
are you at a public school or hagwon? |
This has to be a hagwon. Where is this school, OP? |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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balzor wrote: |
nomad-ish wrote: |
are you at a public school or hagwon? |
This has to be a hagwon. Where is this school, OP? |
i was thinking that too, but only 24 hours of teaching a week? that doesn't sound very hagwon-ish. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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nomad-ish wrote: |
balzor wrote: |
nomad-ish wrote: |
are you at a public school or hagwon? |
This has to be a hagwon. Where is this school, OP? |
i was thinking that too, but only 24 hours of teaching a week? that doesn't sound very hagwon-ish. |
24 hours doesn't necessarily mean 24 classes.  |
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NYC_Gal

Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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In PS, hours can vary from 40-50 minutes. Hagwons usually add up the total amount of minutes taught. If your classes are 45 minutes, 2 classes would equal an hour and a half, rather than the 2 hours they would equal in public school. Hagwon employees are able to leave early more often than public school teachers, though not always. |
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