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br1027



Joined: 06 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: SMOE/EPIK Vacation Reply with quote

I'm reading through the EPIK/SMOE contract for this upcoming year and it states that you get 18 paid days of vacation. 8 must be taken during winter recess and 10 must be taken during summer recess.

Are you not allowed to take vacation outside of these times? Anyone know what the recess dates are?
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the ten days in summer monday to friday days, or are they counted as monday to sunday days?

Any info appreciated.
Thanks
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
Are the ten days in summer monday to friday days, or are they counted as monday to sunday days?

Any info appreciated.
Thanks


18 working days - 10 and 8 respectively.

21-28 if you are in GEPIK.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your contract will either state "consecutive days" or "work days".

so take a guess.
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br1027



Joined: 06 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It states "working" days in the contract.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

br1027 wrote:
It states "working" days in the contract.


working and work. Razz

what do you think? do you work on saturdays, sundays, or holidays too?
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Pyxis



Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The recess days are when school is typically not in session, which can vary from school to school. At the high school I teach at, the winter recess was the first 5 weeks of 2010 as well as the last three weeks of February. The Summer recess will start July 16 and end on on Aug 23. Your vacation days are still subject to the approval of your school as well. You have to work around any scheduled camps that might come up.
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One can often negotiate when vacation time will be taken. I prefer to take the majority of my days in the winter, so that I can go to a warmer place. My coteacher--the one who handles my vacation requests--understands and agrees. I took ALL of my vacation time in the winter for my first contract.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wasn't the standard for SMOE before 21 working days of vacation? that's what my contract says.
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mmstyle



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad-ish wrote:
wasn't the standard for SMOE before 21 working days of vacation? that's what my contract says.


Yes, mine too. If they are lowering them, this really really really sucks.
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balzor



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
oldfatfarang wrote:
Are the ten days in summer monday to friday days, or are they counted as monday to sunday days?

Any info appreciated.
Thanks


18 working days - 10 and 8 respectively.

21-28 if you are in GEPIK.
I'm with SMOE and I get 21
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br1027



Joined: 06 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, EPIK contract for this year states 18. It's also used for SMOE applicants. Last year's said 21.
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eljuero



Joined: 11 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:00 pm    Post subject: SMOE is 21 Reply with quote

Yikes,
SMOE is 21 days. I hope things aren't backsliding!
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hapigokelli



Joined: 04 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it possible that new teachers are getting 18 and re-signing teachers are sticking with 21? At the re-signing interview they told us 21.
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you guys getting 21 working or consecutive days? The EPIK contract last year originally said 21 consecutive days but was changed to 18 working days afterwards.

To the OP: you are supposed to take those days during the recess, however, if there are scheduling conflicts you can take them outside of the break. For example, some POEs load up three or four weeks of camps, making it impossible to take all those days during the break. In that case you have to take vacation during regularly-scheduled classes. Schools hate this but it's up to the POE.
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