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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Children's palates are set early on and our culture is setting them in the wrong way. |
Oh man, I was raised in a three squares a day don't eat that you'll ruin your appetite MORE VEGGIES house and my palate would be thrilled with candy candy cake and pie all day every day. I don't eat like that, but I'd like it.
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| Also, we're spending too much time at work to prepare good food. |
It's true that if my mom were still cooking for me I'd eat healthy without complaint though. Eating good healthy food is a nuisance. |
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sarahsiobhan
Joined: 24 May 2009
Location: Wherever I am , I am probably drinking tea.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Also, we're spending too much time at work to prepare good food. |
I cannot disagree with this more.
Working a lot should have nothing at all to do with choosing to cook healthy food at home. If you work late and come home and instead of making a turkey sandwich with the leftover pan-broiled turkey breast from last night's healthy dinner and instead eat a giant bag of chips, well, that's a choice. I have nothing but contempt for people who insist they are too busy too cook. Too bloody lazy to cook is more accurate. Any decent cook (and I am a good way more than 'decent') knows that the basics are easy to learn and take very little time. I can make a cobb salad in 10 minutes, fajitas in 15, I can make pizza with a wrap as the base in 20, Bolognese sauce in 40 and a full-on, from scratch (pasta included) lasagna in 60. It's not that difficult.
Even worse is when people say, "Oh, I just can't cook!" and then laugh as though it's an amusing character trait. I just want to say "So, are you illiterate? Or do you not possess arms?" Why do people think that being unable to follow simple instructions is endearing? And if you really are terrible at cooking, it just means you don't do it enough. Cooking is easy; practice!
And frankly, even if people are super-busy etc. (which I really don't buy,it's all about priorities) who wouldn't want to make the healthy choice, do a bit more work, and be so much healthier in the long run? It boggles the mind that people don't realize this and act on it.
Okay, rant over.
ps-Privateer, this is not directed at you, I just needed a focus. I am against the whole attitude of 'too busy too cook', not you personally. |
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El Macho
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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It's amazing that some people need motivation to learn how to cook other than "The stuff I'm eating makes me fat and makes me feel sick". One of the things that motivated me was my friends and I getting together for weekly meals. We would take it in turn to cook for the group.
At first the meals were simple things (Breakfast For Dinner!), but as we started cooking better and better meals for each other a competitive element emerged and we all began to take cooking quite seriously and wanting to "practice".
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I have nothing but contempt for people who insist they are too busy too cook. Too bloody lazy to cook is more accurate.
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Even worse is when people say, "Oh, I just can't cook!" and then laugh as though it's an amusing character trait. I just want to say "So, are you illiterate? Or do you not possess arms?" Why do people think that being unable to follow simple instructions is endearing? And if you really are terrible at cooking, it just means you don't do it enough. Cooking is easy; practice! |
I absolutely agree with this. People who choose not to cook then complain about diet-related health problems or not having any money (because they always eat out) receive no sympathy from me whatsoever.
My mother cooked for us and I wound up not knowing how to cook. After a semester at college eating garbage, gaining weight, and generally feeling like trash, I taught myself to cook. I lost the weight, felt better, and now look back on my non-cooking self with shame. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| sarahsiobhan wrote: |
| Privateer wrote: |
Also, we're spending too much time at work to prepare good food. |
I cannot disagree with this more.
Working a lot should have nothing at all to do with choosing to cook healthy food at home. If you work late and come home and instead of making a turkey sandwich with the leftover pan-broiled turkey breast from last night's healthy dinner and instead eat a giant bag of chips, well, that's a choice. I have nothing but contempt for people who insist they are too busy too cook. Too bloody lazy to cook is more accurate. Any decent cook (and I am a good way more than 'decent') knows that the basics are easy to learn and take very little time. I can make a cobb salad in 10 minutes, fajitas in 15, I can make pizza with a wrap as the base in 20, Bolognese sauce in 40 and a full-on, from scratch (pasta included) lasagna in 60. It's not that difficult.
Even worse is when people say, "Oh, I just can't cook!" and then laugh as though it's an amusing character trait. I just want to say "So, are you illiterate? Or do you not possess arms?" Why do people think that being unable to follow simple instructions is endearing? And if you really are terrible at cooking, it just means you don't do it enough. Cooking is easy; practice!
And frankly, even if people are super-busy etc. (which I really don't buy,it's all about priorities) who wouldn't want to make the healthy choice, do a bit more work, and be so much healthier in the long run? It boggles the mind that people don't realize this and act on it.
Okay, rant over.
ps-Privateer, this is not directed at you, I just needed a focus. I am against the whole attitude of 'too busy too cook', not you personally. |
Agreed! Besides, even someone with no kitchen skills can buy a crock pot and make stew. My roomate in uni lived off of crock pot food for 2 years, until I finally taught him how to bake! |
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Slowmotion
Joined: 15 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| The percentage of GEPIK female teacherts that are obese: 50% I'd say |
 Oh no, he's taking it back there! This is gonna cause a poopstorm. |
lol has this already been discussed many times? |
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DorkothyParker
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:54 am Post subject: |
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I can't cook, so I married a man who can. I would learn to cook but really it would frustrate my husband so I shan't bother.
I may never be as fit as NYCGal (as I envision her anyway) but I am well within healthy ranges in every way and am not overweight according to my BMI (and yes, I know BMI doesn't apply to muscular men, but it works fairly well for regular women).
What's my diet? I eat what I want, when I am hungry and stop before I am full. I have been known to sneak in a candy bar once or twice a month and the occasional icecream cone as well.
You don't need to be a health nut, you don't need crazy unattainable goals. And let's face it, eating organic, farm raised, blah blah blah is so upper middle class that we mere proles cannot aspire to it (plus it's bourgeois anyway) . But we can eat real butter (not margarine) and eggs and whatever raw meat and fresh veggies that are on sale.
Also, cars are for losers. Bikes + public transit ftw. (I have never owned a car in all my 27 years and no, it was not a convenient way to live at all in podunk Idaho but I managed because I am cheap).
Let's stop with this eat healthy or die mindset and get back to an "all things in moderation" way of living.
<3 Dorkothy "Shanghai Spice + diet coke" Parker |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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I can't cook, so I married a man who can. I would learn to cook but really it would frustrate my husband so I shan't bother.
I may never be as fit as NYCGal (as I envision her anyway) but I am well within healthy ranges in every way and am not overweight according to my BMI (and yes, I know BMI doesn't apply to muscular men, but it works fairly well for regular women).
What's my diet? I eat what I want, when I am hungry and stop before I am full. I have been known to sneak in a candy bar once or twice a month and the occasional icecream cone as well.
You don't need to be a health nut, you don't need crazy unattainable goals. And let's face it, eating organic, farm raised, blah blah blah is so upper middle class that we mere proles cannot aspire to it (plus it's bourgeois anyway) . But we can eat real butter (not margarine) and eggs and whatever raw meat and fresh veggies that are on sale.
Also, cars are for losers. Bikes + public transit ftw. (I have never owned a car in all my 27 years and no, it was not a convenient way to live at all in podunk Idaho but I managed because I am cheap).
Let's stop with this eat healthy or die mindset and get back to an "all things in moderation" way of living.
<3 Dorkothy "Shanghai Spice + diet coke" Parker |
I have to say that I did gain a few kilo when I moved to Korea, if only because I started eating far more carbs than I ever did back home, but fortunately I still fit into Korean sizes.
I don't think that being health aware should be upper middle. It should be the goal of everyone who cares about their health. You teach ESL. You make more than enough to spend 10-20k extra a month to buy the organic versions of things. We can't really get farm-raised here, but we can try our best. A body's inside is far more important than the outside. If you don't care about what fuels yours, that's completely your choice. |
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sarahsiobhan
Joined: 24 May 2009
Location: Wherever I am , I am probably drinking tea.
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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