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Should the Manson killers be set free?
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NovaKart



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:43 am    Post subject: Should the Manson killers be set free? Reply with quote

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=12757171

Excluding Charlie of course.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone, Manson is the one who should be freed, if he's still alive. He didn't kill anyone.
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NovaKart



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that should start an interesting discussion.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
If anyone, Manson is the one who should be freed, if he's still alive. He didn't kill anyone.


Hey, neither did Hitler.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
bacasper wrote:
If anyone, Manson is the one who should be freed, if he's still alive. He didn't kill anyone.


Hey, neither did Hitler.


And he wasn't convicted of murder. See what I mean? Thanks for proving my point.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
bacasper wrote:
If anyone, Manson is the one who should be freed, if he's still alive. He didn't kill anyone.


Hey, neither did Hitler.


And he wasn't convicted of murder. See what I mean? Thanks for proving my point.


Ever hear of conspiracy? And, no, not the type you dredge up on a daily basis here.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
bacasper wrote:
Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
bacasper wrote:
If anyone, Manson is the one who should be freed, if he's still alive. He didn't kill anyone.


Hey, neither did Hitler.


And he wasn't convicted of murder. See what I mean? Thanks for proving my point.


Ever hear of conspiracy? And, no, not the type you dredge up on a daily basis here.

What "type" would that be? Oh, you mean the type you are unable to refute. OK.

This is why conspiracy laws are BS thought crimes. If I tell you to kill someone and you are stupid enough to do it, I should go to jail for murder???
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NovaKart



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was hoping for a serious discussion on this. I don't know how the thread turned out this way.
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
bacasper wrote:
If anyone, Manson is the one who should be freed, if he's still alive. He didn't kill anyone.


Hey, neither did Hitler.


And he wasn't convicted of murder. See what I mean? Thanks for proving my point.


This is only very trivially true. Hitler wasn't convicted of murder because he was already dead. Had he been alive at Nuremburg, however, he would have been sentenced to death by hanging for war crimes and crimes against humanity amongst other charges.
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let them rot in jail. For the rest of their lives.
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ReeseDog



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louis VI wrote:
Let them rot in jail. For the rest of their lives.


Do you like paying for that?
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
bacasper wrote:
Leslie Cheswyck wrote:
bacasper wrote:
If anyone, Manson is the one who should be freed, if he's still alive. He didn't kill anyone.


Hey, neither did Hitler.


And he wasn't convicted of murder. See what I mean? Thanks for proving my point.


This is only very trivially true. Hitler wasn't convicted of murder because he was already dead. Had he been alive at Nuremburg, however, he would have been sentenced to death by hanging for war crimes and crimes against humanity amongst other charges.

Of course, you are right. I was just responding to a trivial comment with another trivial comment to prove my point.
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NovaKart



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leslie Van Housten was 19 when she murdered 2 people along with other Manson family members. She's now 60. She's spent her whole adult life in prison and is now an old lady. If not for the notoriety of the Manson murders I believe she would have been released long ago.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NovaKart wrote:
Leslie Van Housten was 19 when she murdered 2 people along with other Manson family members. She's now 60. She's spent her whole adult life in prison and is now an old lady. If not for the notoriety of the Manson murders I believe she would have been released long ago.

I'd favor a law saying that one cannot serve more time in prison than one's age at the time of the crime.

In her case, she is surely institutionalized now and might not even be able to function on the outside. I would not be surprised if she does not even want out now.
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NovaKart



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She's trying to get out on parole now. She's been trying for years and so far has always been denied.
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