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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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 Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:23 am Post subject: Is This Even Possible? |
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So, my two year old MSI Wind has been blue screening a lot lately. This evening I took it to the local repair shop.
All I wanted to do was swap out the HDD, so he cracked it open and had a look inside. He pulled out the RAM and asked "upgrade?", my initial reaction was no, because I added an extra stick of RAM when I bought it off gmarket. But he insisted. When I took a look at the RAM chip, it only said 1 GB! I've had it for two years and was convinced it had 2GB of RAM. The bios and Control Panel both said 2GB.
Is it even possible to fake how much RAM is in it? |
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Senior
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| Oh yea. I ended up getting a 500GB HDD, 2GB of RAM and W7 Ultimate for 200,000w. |
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akcrono
Joined: 11 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| The bios is more reliable than the sticker when it comes to capacity. Did you get the blue screen fixed? If not I know of a few utilities that can help locate the problem. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| akcrono wrote: |
| The bios is more reliable than the sticker when it comes to capacity. Did you get the blue screen fixed? If not I know of a few utilities that can help locate the problem. |
Just getting a fresh install. I'm fairly sure the bios said 2gb. Is it possible to fake the ram value in the bios? |
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aphase
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| you said you added an extra stick of RAM to get 2GB of RAM, so that would be two 1GB RAM sticks right? So you looked at one RAM stick and it said 1GB? Sounds normal to me, unless there was only one RAM stick in there after the upgrade. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Was it single sided or double sided RAM?
If its double sided, it could've said 1GB on one side, and then 1GB on the other side.
1+1=2. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| aphase wrote: |
| you said you added an extra stick of RAM to get 2GB of RAM, so that would be two 1GB RAM sticks right? So you looked at one RAM stick and it said 1GB? Sounds normal to me, unless there was only one RAM stick in there after the upgrade. |
Well, it's a netbook so only has one slot. I should've said I got the ram upgraded to 2gb when I bought it. Well, I thought I did. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
Was it single sided or double sided RAM?
If its double sided, it could've said 1GB on one side, and then 1GB on the other side.
1+1=2. |
That doesn't seem right. There was only one sticker, and it was A symmetrical. So I don't think so. The back side had 4 little modules. Whatever that means. |
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namerae
Joined: 10 Jun 2010
Location: Anyang, RoK
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
Was it single sided or double sided RAM?
If its double sided, it could've said 1GB on one side, and then 1GB on the other side.
1+1=2. |
That doesn't seem right. There was only one sticker, and it was A symmetrical. So I don't think so. The back side had 4 little modules. Whatever that means. |
Double-sided RAM? It's unlikely that a PC2-5300 chip would be "double sided" in the context you're using.
Since 1GB comes standard (in all the netbooks I've ever seen, and that's a lot!) I would assume they just didn't upgrade it like you wanted.  That is an amazing price for HDD, 2GB RAM, and Win7. Holy [mod edit].  |
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jackdaniels
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:31 am Post subject: my two cents |
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Some netbooks have 1GB ram embedded on the motherboard AND a slot for another stick.  (Most netbooks will only recognize 2GB; could be you now have three but your notebook can't see it)
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| Oh yea. I ended up getting a 500GB HDD, 2GB of RAM and W7 Ultimate for 200,000w. |
Most likely pirated W7 Ultimate.=Cost Free
2GB Notebook Ram=50,000
500 GB HDD=62,000
(So depending on whether the "local repair tech" gave you your 1GB stick back to you; me thinks yeah ya got screwed. Ram not really upgraded) 
http://blog.laptopmag.com/msi-upgrading-wind-ram-voids-warranty |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, missed the part where it was NOTEBOOK Ram.
A lot of notebook computers have 2 separate RAM locations. My Thinkpad had a RAM slot under the keyboard, and another on the bottom of the Notebook.
Most likely, your notebook was the same. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: my two cents |
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| jackdaniels wrote: |
| Some netbooks have 1GB ram embedded on the motherboard AND a slot for another stick. (Most netbooks will only recognize 2GB; could be you now have three but your notebook can't see it) |
I'm pretty sure it only has a RAM slot. No embedded RAM. I paid for 2GB when I bought it 2 years ago. The dude at the store pulled 1GB out of it last night. It should only recognise 2GB.
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| Senior wrote: |
| Oh yea. I ended up getting a 500GB HDD, 2GB of RAM and W7 Ultimate for 200,000w. |
Most likely pirated W7 Ultimate.=Cost Free
2GB Notebook Ram=50,000
500 GB HDD=62,000
(So depending on whether the "local repair tech" gave you your 1GB stick back to you; me thinks yeah ya got screwed. Ram not really upgraded)
http://blog.laptopmag.com/msi-upgrading-wind-ram-voids-warranty |
Of course it is pirated W7. Was that ever in contention? 
I think the price was OK. The best I could find on gmarket was around 70K for Ram and 80K for the hdd. The time and effort is worth more than the difference to me.
I definitely don't care about voiding the warranty. The thing is 2 years old. So is your article, and MSI later came out and said upgrading wouldn't void the warranty.
EDIT: Just perused your article. They seem to think there is another RAM slot underneath the motherboard. That is interesting. Looks like I will have 3GB of RAM of which 1GB will be useless.  |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
Sorry, missed the part where it was NOTEBOOK Ram.
A lot of notebook computers have 2 separate RAM locations. My Thinkpad had a RAM slot under the keyboard, and another on the bottom of the Notebook.
Most likely, your notebook was the same. |
Seems like this was the case. Looks like I have a GB of superfluous RAM now. |
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hanguker
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Just post it up on the Buy and Sell. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
Seems like this was the case. Looks like I have a GB of superfluous RAM now. |
Is it surperfluous? 32-bit operating systems can make use of up to 4GB of RAM. Also, in many notebook computers, the Graphics processor shares RAM with the computer.
Going from 2GB to 3GB is definately advantageous. Not as much Performance gain compared to going from 1GB to 2GB. Still, 3GB of ram is defnitely not "too much" nowadays. |
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