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Anyone ever permanently ban a university student from class?

 
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Mikejelai



Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Anyone ever permanently ban a university student from class? Reply with quote

What do you think the ramifications would be for the foreign teacher?
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languistic



Joined: 25 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too many variables, both in the act of doing something so radical (I assume that by 'permanent', you mean a semester) and in your question.

Give it a whirl and get back to us. In the meantime, enjoy pages of arguments and speculation.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a Korean prof has ever done it, and the student is truly a problem, you might be able to (precedent + a case). Out of curiosity, what does the student do?
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes in a ps hs. Kid has low self esteem and likes to fight. Biggest in class fight, I've had was 5 kids. And the co-teacher isn't worth his salt. I had him taken out of the class and teach him 1 on 1, after school now.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone ever permanently ban a university student from cl Reply with quote

Mikejelai wrote:
What do you think the ramifications would be for the foreign teacher?


If you had to ask this question, most likely, you (FT) will end up getting banned from working there. Razz
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say it's a tricky situation. It depends on the school and what their policies are. If the student is failing, then it's pretty simple, tell them they won't pass. At that point showing up to class is an act of futility. Most universities have a policy if they miss a certain number of classes then they will fail automatically.

The OP needs to be a little more specific why it would be necessary to ban the student.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done it. Uni student didn't show up to a single class until the midterm and expected to write the exam. An automatic F is given after missing 10 classes, and he had already missed 15. Even if he had excuse slips (only 3 maximum allowed), he still would have had 12 absences at the midterm point; still an automatic F. This was uni policy and was pretty much written in stone--no Fs were ever overturned due to absences unless the students were in the hospital the entire time. I didn't let him write the midterm, kicked him out, and told him not to come back because he already had an F. He tried coming in to my class again for the final and didn't succeed then either.
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not let him write the test and just chuck it in the bin afterwards?

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
I've done it. Uni student didn't show up to a single class until the midterm and expected to write the exam. An automatic F is given after missing 10 classes, and he had already missed 15. Even if he had excuse slips (only 3 maximum allowed), he still would have had 12 absences at the midterm point; still an automatic F. This was uni policy and was pretty much written in stone--no Fs were ever overturned due to absences unless the students were in the hospital the entire time. I didn't let him write the midterm, kicked him out, and told him not to come back because he already had an F. He tried coming in to my class again for the final and didn't succeed then either.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoholDiver wrote:
Why not let him write the test and just chuck it in the bin afterwards?

Uni policy. Students with Fs for attendance were not allowed to sit exams.

As an aside, do you routinely decide what is and is not worthy of being included in a student's course records? How can a student expect a formal grade appeal to be judged fairly and accurately if portions of their record are not there?
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