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Mikejelai
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:10 am Post subject: Anyone ever permanently ban a university student from class? |
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What do you think the ramifications would be for the foreign teacher? |
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languistic
Joined: 25 Nov 2009
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Too many variables, both in the act of doing something so radical (I assume that by 'permanent', you mean a semester) and in your question.
Give it a whirl and get back to us. In the meantime, enjoy pages of arguments and speculation. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:29 am Post subject: |
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If a Korean prof has ever done it, and the student is truly a problem, you might be able to (precedent + a case). Out of curiosity, what does the student do? |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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yes in a ps hs. Kid has low self esteem and likes to fight. Biggest in class fight, I've had was 5 kids. And the co-teacher isn't worth his salt. I had him taken out of the class and teach him 1 on 1, after school now. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone ever permanently ban a university student from cl |
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Mikejelai wrote: |
What do you think the ramifications would be for the foreign teacher? |
If you had to ask this question, most likely, you (FT) will end up getting banned from working there.  |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:14 am Post subject: |
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I'd say it's a tricky situation. It depends on the school and what their policies are. If the student is failing, then it's pretty simple, tell them they won't pass. At that point showing up to class is an act of futility. Most universities have a policy if they miss a certain number of classes then they will fail automatically.
The OP needs to be a little more specific why it would be necessary to ban the student. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:17 am Post subject: |
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I've done it. Uni student didn't show up to a single class until the midterm and expected to write the exam. An automatic F is given after missing 10 classes, and he had already missed 15. Even if he had excuse slips (only 3 maximum allowed), he still would have had 12 absences at the midterm point; still an automatic F. This was uni policy and was pretty much written in stone--no Fs were ever overturned due to absences unless the students were in the hospital the entire time. I didn't let him write the midterm, kicked him out, and told him not to come back because he already had an F. He tried coming in to my class again for the final and didn't succeed then either. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:26 am Post subject: |
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Why not let him write the test and just chuck it in the bin afterwards?
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I've done it. Uni student didn't show up to a single class until the midterm and expected to write the exam. An automatic F is given after missing 10 classes, and he had already missed 15. Even if he had excuse slips (only 3 maximum allowed), he still would have had 12 absences at the midterm point; still an automatic F. This was uni policy and was pretty much written in stone--no Fs were ever overturned due to absences unless the students were in the hospital the entire time. I didn't let him write the midterm, kicked him out, and told him not to come back because he already had an F. He tried coming in to my class again for the final and didn't succeed then either. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:51 am Post subject: |
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BoholDiver wrote: |
Why not let him write the test and just chuck it in the bin afterwards? |
Uni policy. Students with Fs for attendance were not allowed to sit exams.
As an aside, do you routinely decide what is and is not worthy of being included in a student's course records? How can a student expect a formal grade appeal to be judged fairly and accurately if portions of their record are not there? |
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