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lush72
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: I am Penalty Kick!
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: What do you think you are worth? |
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| Homer wrote: |
| Lets see what some of us consider a fair offer here in Korea. |
Homer- please clarify this question. What exactly do you mean? A fair offer to do what? Teach? Act? Model? Host at a host bar?
Too many variables here man- narrow it down a little will ya? |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I think he is referring to the majority of posters here who are teachers. |
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Mankind

Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
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Anything under $50 an hour is usually not worth it (unless it helps you make new contacts). For those that don't believe that, you're suckers.
Korean private English teachers make 40 G's an hour and up. For all you people who are happy making 30-35 an hour the guy who 'introduced' you to the job is making the same as you.
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Teaching isn't always about the money. |
I think I was clear about that. Sometimes its about contacts. But why would you do a job for 50-60% of what you could be paid? Thats just stupid. People act likely teaching is some holy work that needs no pay. Bullshit! You need money to live in this world and you might as well make as much as you can while you're doing your work. Because I promise you if you're dumb enough not to take all you can get, nobody will give it to you out of kindness. Looking out for your bank account doen't make you a bad teacher, it makes you a smart one.
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Toby

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Wedded Bliss
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Toby wrote,
Relevance to OP? Can't quite see the connection to the question,"What do you think you are worth?"
What is the value of your health? Are you compensated for working in an area that is bad for your health? Are you compensated for working in an area that is "unappealing"? |
But every city in which you may work has a high chance of contracting anything.
So. It still doesn't really answer what the OP asked.
I think I could be worth millions to the right employer, regarding where I am or what my health is. That doesn't just apply to Seoul. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Mankind wrote: |
| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| Mankind wrote: |
Anything under $50 an hour is usually not worth it (unless it helps you make new contacts). For those that don't believe that, you're suckers.
Korean private English teachers make 40 G's an hour and up. For all you people who are happy making 30-35 an hour the guy who 'introduced' you to the job is making the same as you.
HAND  |
Teaching isn't always about the money. |
I think I was clear about that. Sometimes its about contacts. But why would you do a job for 50-60% of what you could be paid? Thats just stupid. People act likely teaching is some holy work that needs no pay. *beep*! You need money to live in this world and you might as well make as much as you can while you're doing your work. Because I promise you if you're dumb enough not to take all you can get, nobody will give it to you out of kindness. Looking out for your bank account doen't make you a bad teacher, it makes you a smart one.
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Well here is how I see that. If I don't know someone I will charge them premium rates. However if I do know someone, I can't in good conscience charge them that much. Example: A teacher at your school asks you to help teach his wife a bit. He has done tons of favors for you, what do you do? Me, I'd want to say no if asked, but the guy wants you to do it as a favor...well would you charge him full price? I'd do it for free depending on how often it was.
I think teaching is a noble enterprise. I know what you are saying, we aren't in it for charity and that is true. But sometimes it isn't always about the money - sometimes it is about helping friends out, or doing favors. If that is what you meant by contacts, well guess we just have different ways of expressing it. |
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dutchman

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: My backyard
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| Mankind wrote: |
| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| Mankind wrote: |
Anything under $50 an hour is usually not worth it (unless it helps you make new contacts). For those that don't believe that, you're suckers.
Korean private English teachers make 40 G's an hour and up. For all you people who are happy making 30-35 an hour the guy who 'introduced' you to the job is making the same as you.
HAND  |
Teaching isn't always about the money. |
I think I was clear about that. Sometimes its about contacts. But why would you do a job for 50-60% of what you could be paid? Thats just stupid. People act likely teaching is some holy work that needs no pay. *beep*! You need money to live in this world and you might as well make as much as you can while you're doing your work. Because I promise you if you're dumb enough not to take all you can get, nobody will give it to you out of kindness. Looking out for your bank account doen't make you a bad teacher, it makes you a smart one.
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Well here is how I see that. If I don't know someone I will charge them premium rates. However if I do know someone, I can't in good conscience charge them that much. Example: A teacher at your school asks you to help teach his wife a bit. He has done tons of favors for you, what do you do? Me, I'd want to say no if asked, but the guy wants you to do it as a favor...well would you charge him full price? I'd do it for free depending on how often it was.
I think teaching is a noble enterprise. I know what you are saying, we aren't in it for charity and that is true. But sometimes it isn't always about the money - sometimes it is about helping friends out, or doing favors. If that is what you meant by contacts, well guess we just have different ways of expressing it. |
If you had an accountant friend, would you ask him to do your taxes for free? I'm willing to do lots of favors for people - help them move, help them paint their apartment, pick them up from the airport. Teaching is not a favor it's my job. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:06 am Post subject: |
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A fair offer to teach of course...I should have been more specific.
Good responses so far.
Quite interesting. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| Mankind wrote: |
| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| Mankind wrote: |
Anything under $50 an hour is usually not worth it (unless it helps you make new contacts). For those that don't believe that, you're suckers.
Korean private English teachers make 40 G's an hour and up. For all you people who are happy making 30-35 an hour the guy who 'introduced' you to the job is making the same as you.
HAND  |
Teaching isn't always about the money. |
I think I was clear about that. Sometimes its about contacts. But why would you do a job for 50-60% of what you could be paid? Thats just stupid. People act likely teaching is some holy work that needs no pay. *beep*! You need money to live in this world and you might as well make as much as you can while you're doing your work. Because I promise you if you're dumb enough not to take all you can get, nobody will give it to you out of kindness. Looking out for your bank account doen't make you a bad teacher, it makes you a smart one.
HAND  |
Well here is how I see that. If I don't know someone I will charge them premium rates. However if I do know someone, I can't in good conscience charge them that much. Example: A teacher at your school asks you to help teach his wife a bit. He has done tons of favors for you, what do you do? Me, I'd want to say no if asked, but the guy wants you to do it as a favor...well would you charge him full price? I'd do it for free depending on how often it was.
I think teaching is a noble enterprise. I know what you are saying, we aren't in it for charity and that is true. But sometimes it isn't always about the money - sometimes it is about helping friends out, or doing favors. If that is what you meant by contacts, well guess we just have different ways of expressing it. |
If you had an accountant friend, would you ask him to do your taxes for free? I'm willing to do lots of favors for people - help them move, help them paint their apartment, pick them up from the airport. Teaching is not a favor it's my job. |
Yeah I would ask him to do it for free.
My mom's best friend is a lawyer, she did some legal documents for me, FOR FREE.
It's called doing favors. I am sure if I needed the lawyer to represent me on a longass case, she would charge. Same if a friend needs me to use up a ton of my time. 1 hr a week for a friend, isn't much time IMO. |
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