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a couple of dates to remember (not the romantic type)
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no worries atwood

its called poppy day because after the wars in flanders (first world war), poppies started to grow in the fields (red poppies signifying blood spilled on the fields).
A poem was then written by John McCrae called 'in flanders field'
http://www.greatwar.co.uk/poems/john-mccrae-in-flanders-fields.htm

poppy day/rememberance day/armistice day/veterans day - (different names for the same thing) has since then become a yearly commonwealth commemoration of those who fought and died in the first and WW1 and 2 and other wars.
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theseafoodloverinyou



Joined: 03 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What is it with americans?


Ha ha - I'm Canadian. Way to offend Americans with your stereotypical assumptions. Clearly the poppy joke was never meant to offend - my advice: chillax.
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singerdude



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I do find it a bit offensive when someone makes the assumption that when there is a comment that is perceived as insensitive, an American must have said it. It's as if no other nationality could ever make those types of comments.
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wiganer



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

singerdude wrote:
Yes, I do find it a bit offensive when someone makes the assumption that when there is a comment that is perceived as insensitive, an American must have said it. It's as if no other nationality could ever make those types of comments.


Well, seeing as November the 11th is commemorated in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and the United Kingdom - it seems strange that a Canadian would make light of the day - unless the Canadian in question is a bit of an idiot!

So it leaves the Irish and the Americans. Near to half a million Irishmen fought for Britain in too many wars to mention. So don't get offended if someone thinks the idiot concerned being disrespectful is an American - it's a natural assumption based on fact.

Again - if British posters made the same cracks about memorial day - they would be banned - end of. Rolling Eyes
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hakwonner



Joined: 09 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wiganer wrote:

Well, seeing as November the 11th is commemorated in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and the United Kingdom - it seems strange that a Canadian would make light of the day - unless the Canadian in question is a bit of an idiot!


there's your answer! Rolling Eyes
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singerdude



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wiganer wrote:
singerdude wrote:
Yes, I do find it a bit offensive when someone makes the assumption that when there is a comment that is perceived as insensitive, an American must have said it. It's as if no other nationality could ever make those types of comments.


Well, seeing as November the 11th is commemorated in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and the United Kingdom - it seems strange that a Canadian would make light of the day - unless the Canadian in question is a bit of an idiot!

So it leaves the Irish and the Americans. Near to half a million Irishmen fought for Britain in too many wars to mention. So don't get offended if someone thinks the idiot concerned being disrespectful is an American - it's a natural assumption based on fact.

Again - if British posters made the same cracks about memorial day - they would be banned - end of. Rolling Eyes


We also observe Nov. 11. We call it Veteran's Day. Memorial Day is for all of the soldiers that died during the wars, and Veteran's Day is to honor all soldiers, living and dead.
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theseafoodloverinyou



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it seems strange that a Canadian would make light of the day


That's exactly my point - no one was making light of the day. The intent from the beginning was clearly to poke fun at the OP who got his dates wrong (Fri Nov 12th -13th), not Vets.

In my view, the OP's subsequent reaction (i.e. accusing people of disrespecting the memory of Veterans) was silly and over-the-top.

That's why this guy seems like he needs a rest.
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itistime



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^yup. chillax, I think was the term used.
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wesharris



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wiganer wrote:
le-paul wrote:
What is it with americans?
You have to make some smart arse, wise crack about everything or belittle someone elses beliefs with ignorant comments?



And not only that - if you tried taking the piss out of their 'memorial day' this thread would be 12 pages long of self righteous whining about how everyone would be fluent in German and you would be banned.

It is about time others showed some respect. Rolling Eyes

Well to be honest with you, more likely than not, you'd have just gotten out of your Soviet Britain state, now more than likely, recovering into a 2nd world economic state. Not really German.
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theseafoodloverinyou wrote:
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What is it with americans?


Ha ha - I'm Canadian. Way to offend Americans with your stereotypical assumptions. Clearly the poppy joke was never meant to offend - my advice: chillax.





how was it clearly not meant to offend? ive read it a few times now and i cant see that?
please elaborate.

I posted because I feel it is my civic duty to remind people (cos were all away from home and may not remember about these things) that its rememberance sunday this weekend. Not to start up crap with a bunch of bored children- again.


Ops feeling it was over the top? chilax?

sorry about that but i served in bosnia in the 90's when I was in my early 20's. Suffice to say that I have no sense of humour when it comes to this kind of thing - specifically people disrespecting the memory of my family and friends ie making ambiguous jokes/sarcastic comments about original post.

on the best of days, it is quite annoying/frustrating when people (specifically civies) start throwing around ignorant remarks about something they dont even take the time to comprehend let alone trying to empathise with before commenting on it.

As for thinking it was an american, sorry if that caused offence but i really could not believe someone from a commonwealth country would make a facetious comment about memorial day. knowing brits/scots/irish etc., I knew it wouldnt be one of us because unless your a professional chav, probably wouldnt say anything like that out loud.

as for telling me to chilax, sounds to me a bit like your trying to cover up for being a prat by making out that it was me that over reacted?
anyway, 9 times out of 10 it is an american that makes said comments.

quote...
That's exactly my point - no one was making light of the day. The intent from the beginning was clearly to poke fun at the OP who got his dates wrong (Fri Nov 12th -13th), not Vets.

''poppies on bagels'' ''afghanistan'' ''this thread will go to 7 pages!'' ???

whats this got to do with me mixing some dates up? sounds like sarcasm and stupidity to me but maybe Im getting paranoid in my old age.

wheres your shovel. Please grow up and accept that youre in the wrong


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theseafoodloverinyou



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you've just made my point.

I can see how, as a former soldier, you would feel so strongly about this subject.

But you should know that none of the comments here were made maliciously. I really see no reason to get so worked up.

My advice to you is to go out and get some fresh air.
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rollo



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems you have a problem with Americans. Chill out, no one was trying to offend you. Someone did not understand your post is all. I have never heard an American make a snotty comment about memorial day. it is a big deal in our country. We realize that it was a world war and other nations sacrificed. So just chill.
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
Seems you have a problem with Americans. Chill out, no one was trying to offend you. Someone did not understand your post is all. I have never heard an American make a snotty comment about memorial day. it is a big deal in our country. We realize that it was a world war and other nations sacrificed. So just chill.


I didnt want to get drawn into a petty, tit-for-tat debate with anyone regarding this thread but que sera... theres not one thing that boils my wet than people telling me to 'chill out'

One of the people who made a comment said they hadnt realised and appologised. I respected that a lot. When that person appologised, I was pretty certain i dropped my argument.

I do not take issue entirely with the comments themselves so much as the re-occuring instances where people make 'oafish' comments and then when someone responds or reacts, they refuse to take any responsibility for what they have said. In this case passing the buck to me for reacting to negative, commenting on my thread.

And I do not have a specific issue with Americans. I have stood next to a lot of good blokes from the states and would do so again.
Its the immature dolts that plug up threads with lowbrow, unwitty, atttention seeking, uncivil comments that one has to deal with time and time again.

That does not make me a biggot I hope, it is merely an observation.

Please feel free to correct me if you disagree, it is afterall a public forum
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Lee Myung Bak



Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

le-paul wrote:


And I do not have a specific issue with Americans. I have stood next to a lot of good blokes from the states and would do so again.
Its the immature dolts that plug up threads with lowbrow, unwitty, atttention seeking, uncivil comments that one has to deal with time and time again.



Yet you assume that these "dolts" 9 times out of 10 are American?
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, thats what I said.
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