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rms2279
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madtownhustl
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| man that sucks! BEING at work and not getting paid is ridiculous. especially when your DOING work. I'd say somethin |
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thegadfly
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:15 am Post subject: |
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If you are working those 30 classroom teaching hours a week already, then I would object to the online grading without pay...if, however, you are under hours, and are making it up by being at the school checking essays...then, while annoying, I would say that is fine....
How do you teach 30 hours a week and NOT already work Fridays? |
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rms2279
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:54 am Post subject: |
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tanklor1
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| @thegadfly: I teach from 2pm-10pm Monday through Thursday, w/ a half hour for lunch from 5:30-6pm. So, 7.5 hrs/day multiplied by 4 days = 30 hrs a week. |
Sounds like you're complaining because you're bored on Fridays. This isn't something that I would complain about. |
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Catfisher
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| It really doesn't sound that bad. Just ask the director if you can do it from home, otherwise grading essays is part of the stuff you do on your own time really. Even back home it was like that. |
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rms2279
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:22 am Post subject: |
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rms2279
Joined: 28 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| FWIW, I guess I should also mention that I grade all of the essays for all of the students here at my hagwon, not just the students I happen to have in my classes. My Korean coteachers (including the director) don't grade essays. |
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Catfisher
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| FWIW, I guess I should also mention that I grade all of the essays for all of the students here at my hagwon, not just the students I happen to have in my classes. My Korean coteachers (including the director) don't grade essays. |
And how many does that all total? |
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rms2279
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:43 am Post subject: |
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Catfisher
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| There's about 70 students enrolled here at the moment. So, assuming all the students complete their weekly essay, that makes about 70 essays per week that need to be graded. |
Yeah, I think I might say something about that amount of work. |
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valkerie
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:24 am Post subject: |
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No way I would be marking essays for every student for no extra cash.
Oh and he is breaking the labour law by not giving you a full one hour break on your teaching days as well. |
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rms2279
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:37 am Post subject: |
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tanklor1
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:50 am Post subject: |
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@Catfisher: Yeah, after I looked at my class rosters and did the math, I kind of did a double take at the fact that I'm grading 70 essays a week. It does seem a bit much.
@valkerie: Seriously, we're entitled to a full hour? We just recently started getting a half hour -- for the first 3 months here, we didn't get a lunch break at all. |
Hey, I just want to warn you because it sounds like you're thinking about doing something stupid.
The crux of working here is office relations especially with the boss. Now, you sound like the only native teacher at your school; so a lot rides on you. If you start waving around your contact asking why it isn't fellowed to the letter you're going to be asking for a lot of cold shoulders and it could potentially make the rest of your time here very uncomfortable. In the end it's your decision but it sounds like you have four busy days and a day at the end of the week to dick around on facebook and instead of accepting what is essentially a four day work week you seem to be bitching about having to physically be there in the office to grade your essays and I'm willing to bet it MIGHT take you three minutes to go through one essay.
Ohh and for the record I have NEVER been given an hour break everyday for lunch at a hogwan. I worked at three of them and in my last one I was the head-teacher. |
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valkerie
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:01 am Post subject: |
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In my job I teach for 30 max and have some office hours. So in that case if my student contact was over four days then the Friday was office hours I'd be okay with that. If it was not then no, I wouldn't put up with it.
I have managed to avoid several dodgy situations because I wasn't prepared to just roll over. (And no, it never hurt my relationships or offers to sign up again). Mostly I found the boss would just accept it. (I am talking here about legal rights and things within the contract.)
You ARE entitled to 30 minutes free time (to do with what you wish and in one block) for every four hours you work. That includes office time and the (sometimes) expected unpaid time before your actual work starts. (It cannot be split into those 10 minutes between classes either.)
If I take a job that is 2-10 and it becomes 1 - 10 and there is only 30 minutes for lunch then I ain't accepting that. Politely pointed that out (and had a copy of the relevant part of the law to leave with them). It was changed.
I have no intention of arguing on here. That's the law, that's your right. period. Whatever you choose to do/accept is entirely up to you. |
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