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explorer25



Joined: 18 Jul 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:42 am    Post subject: psa Reply with quote

i worked with them as well...all the events listed in the previous response are very true!! They dont give you feedback about how much hours u put in for those choreographies that you do, but they criticize stupid shit that has nothing to do with kids' performance... Smile

My manager was a SNAKE! she was lying to everyone about whatever their case , was, and if I had a similar issue, she would say that it's not possible...but i'd hear from other teachers that they were getting their stuff done, ( like having extra days off during holidays!!) and it wouldnt be a problem....i was trying all my best to be friendly, respectful to her,but she really hated me for some reason... I guess for speaking the truth, ( about house deposit, and TAX MONEY was not correct, and PENSION amount was LESS ! not 9 % !!!) so they hated me cuz i figured out what YBM was all about.....

Anyhow, I had a great partner though, she's still my best friend, and my reference.. In short, THEY FAVOR ALOT among teachers, and they LOVE people WHO ARE FAKE AND all jibbery and smiles ......
I suggest you to meet with the manager and supervisor, and try to talk to other teachers....Again, they MIGHT BE HAPPY THERE, but u can never know how they will TREAT you .......
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Catfisher



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know about the one in Haebongchon? My friend who works there says they deduct 100k for your rent but you can make up to 300k working the 6pm shift.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catfisher wrote:
Anyone know about the one in Haebongchon? My friend who works there says they deduct 100k for your rent but you can make up to 300k working the 6pm shift.


You have a bunch of vague references.

1. The one what?
2. 100k for rent would not even get you a goshiwon. It's something else, like management fee. 100,000 is too high I think unless it includes electricity and water.
3. 300k sounds like a security deposit. GEPIK does 900,000. What is the 300,000 for? The idea to "make up" for something they took from you spells FREE LABOR.

Please clarify the bold stuff.
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Catfisher



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
Catfisher wrote:
Anyone know about the one in Haebongchon? My friend who works there says they deduct 100k for your rent but you can make up to 300k working the 6pm shift.


You have a bunch of vague references.

1. The one what?
2. 100k for rent would not even get you a goshiwon. It's something else, like management fee. 100,000 is too high I think unless it includes electricity and water.
3. 300k sounds like a security deposit. GEPIK does 900,000. What is the 300,000 for? The idea to "make up" for something they took from you spells FREE LABOR.

Please clarify the bold stuff.


1. The PSA children's school.
2. 100k that the teacher pays because the rent exceeds the schools budget allotment for teachers' apartments.
3. You can make "up to" (meaning 300k is the limit) extra pay working a 6pm shift instead of finishing at the usual 4:30 shift.

I didn't realize that was so vague. My melatonin was kicking in at the point.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2. 100k that the teacher pays because the rent exceeds the schools budget allotment for teachers' apartments.


That doesn't make any sense. Security deposits are 5,000,000 to 10,000,000. Schools have to sign 1 year leases. That's why new teachers usually don't get an apartment compared to teachers in Japan and China.

If they are pushing this BS on teachers, then it's simply a way for them to avoid paying pension/medical.

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3. You can make "up to" (meaning 300k is the limit) extra pay working a 6pm shift instead of finishing at the usual 4:30 shift.


That's called "overtime" Laughing

Is this 300,000 per month? We still don't have the specifics of the situation. 20,000/5 days a week, for 4 weeks would be 400,000 per 1 hour class. If you are saying the difference is 4:30-6:00, that is 1.5 hours. So, you should be getting 600,000.

Again, this spells free labor from what I am seeing.
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Catfisher



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
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2. 100k that the teacher pays because the rent exceeds the schools budget allotment for teachers' apartments.


That doesn't make any sense. Security deposits are 5,000,000 to 10,000,000. Schools have to sign 1 year leases. That's why new teachers usually don't get an apartment compared to teachers in Japan and China.

If they are pushing this BS on teachers, then it's simply a way for them to avoid paying pension/medical.

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3. You can make "up to" (meaning 300k is the limit) extra pay working a 6pm shift instead of finishing at the usual 4:30 shift.


That's called "overtime" Laughing

Is this 300,000 per month? We still don't have the specifics of the situation. 20,000/5 days a week, for 4 weeks would be 400,000 per 1 hour class. If you are saying the difference is 4:30-6:00, that is 1.5 hours. So, you should be getting 600,000.

Again, this spells free labor from what I am seeing.


Yeah, I'm not to sure on the particulars of it either. Just going on what another teacher told me. I'll know more after I do an interview next week. The 100k deduction to cover the "extra cost" of rent seems odd to me. Anyway, thanks for responding. And yeah, I think I smell free labor enterprise as well.
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mellow-d



Joined: 07 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, everyone loses a bit of their pay to an "apartment fee" which covers the cleaning and upkeep of the building's hallways, garbage removal and such. How much it costs totally depends on where you're put, but most people lose 50,000-70,000 a month. I think it's a tad excessive because previously the apartment fee at another job was only 30,000 a month, but that was outside of Seoul.
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Catfisher



Joined: 10 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mellow-d wrote:
Yeah, everyone loses a bit of their pay to an "apartment fee" which covers the cleaning and upkeep of the building's hallways, garbage removal and such. How much it costs totally depends on where you're put, but most people lose 50,000-70,000 a month. I think it's a tad excessive because previously the apartment fee at another job was only 30,000 a month, but that was outside of Seoul.


No, my understanding of it (2nd hand info) was that if you didn't want to pay the 100k, then they would give you a split-level basement apt.
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imoscardotcom



Joined: 01 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have any info on GATE school in Apujeong? Does anyone know what the deal is with the "extra" classes you have to teach in the afternoon...like science, etc.?
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plynx



Joined: 03 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imoscardotcom wrote:
Does anyone have any info on GATE school in Apujeong? Does anyone know what the deal is with the "extra" classes you have to teach in the afternoon...like science, etc.?


sending you a PM.
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abass95



Joined: 30 May 2011

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey I know this thread is a year old, but I too would love some information on the GATE school in Apgujeong if anyone has it

Thanks
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gigi116



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:49 pm    Post subject: GATE program - Apkujeong Reply with quote

Does anyone have info they would like to share publicly on the thread? I am also interested in learning about teachers' experiences with this company. Thanks.
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sister_sunshine



Joined: 18 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:55 pm    Post subject: Appletree Reply with quote

I worked at Appletree in Apgujeong back in 2007. Never had any major problems with them. They treated foreign teachers well and always helped out with the day to day stuff. I know at other YBM schools you have to do the sleep-overs and stuff but at Appletree the kids are all too young so there's none of that.
But if you have issue with trying to teach english to 18month olds who can barely speak korean then its probably not the job for you!

On the down side the pay sucked. But it has probably gone up since then. I would agree with what someone said earlier in the thread though; its not worth it to take the 9am-6pm contract. I worked till 4.30pm and that was enough for me!
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pikadoopoo



Joined: 19 May 2011

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

abass95 wrote:
Hey I know this thread is a year old, but I too would love some information on the GATE school in Apgujeong if anyone has it

Thanks

Bump. Would like ANY information about GATE. I'm guessing it's similar to PSA, except it's for "gifted" students.
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tigress



Joined: 09 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could someone pm me about the pine program in mapo and apgujeong please? thank you very much!
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