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Norks Launch "Dozens" of Artillery Shells at SK Is
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two marines are now dead.

And the pictures on the Internet, which will be in American newspapers tomorrow morning, show an island on fire after civilian homes were fired upon by NK. Those photos are going to really heat things up.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyone else just hear a really loud 'boom'?
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NM14456



Joined: 21 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:52 am    Post subject: For what it's worth.... Reply with quote

For what it's worth -

Some of the confusion or different opinions on the attack may have come from some of the headlines. I just saw a current headline that has "populated" area etc.. I don't know about others but this immediately rang civilian to me and might to others including writers at newspapers.

I remember at the time of the Cheonan incident I thought I saw a lot of "time to kick ass" sentiments being thrown around. I feel like I'm hearing it again in a few posts (not singling anyone out or going back and counting posts).

War is tragic for all who are involved - win or lose. Immediate emotional reactions aside (I'm sure there's some of that in Korea and on the board) it's nothing anyone should be impatient about seeing.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:54 am    Post subject: Re: For what it's worth.... Reply with quote

NM14456 wrote:
For what it's worth -

Some of the confusion or different opinions on the attack may have come from some of the headlines. I just saw a current headline that has "populated" area etc.. I don't know about others but this immediately rang civilian to me and might to others including writers at newspapers.


This could be part of it. When i watched the news tonight a good part of it focused on the civilian evacuation and the burning homes.
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every time the North Koreans do this the Korean won tanks. Maybe this is just one of Kin Jong Il's dodgy money making schemes. Go short the Korean won Monday, fire some shots Tuesday, cash in your mega profit making trades Wednesday. Then again the Korean government does have a weak won policy...........mmmmmmmm. Fodder for conspiracy theorists.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It didn't tank after the Cheonan - http://www.oanda.com/currency/historical-rates
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Drew10



Joined: 31 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got ahold of my friend at Casey, they're doing alot of "just in case" preparations. All in all he didn't seem too terribly worried about it which is a good thing.
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liveinkorea316



Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
If they truly wanted to target military only options, why not target the ships at sea?


You gotta remember no civilians were killed. Two marines were killed.

If the Norks were after those civilians I think they would have got them.

In actuality they targeted the base. And got it.

Targeting bases is a legitimate military strategy. Ask any Korean 12 year old who plays Starcraft and he will tell you. Civilians near bases does not make them targets. This Island was very small at just a few miles across and was less than 20 miles from the North Korean mainland. How accurate do you think artillary is?
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Tundra_Creature



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just woke up to this back home. Hope this doesn't escalate. Sad

CTV's Take on it- http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/World/20101123/koreas-artillery-exchange-Yeonpyeong-101123/
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NM14456



Joined: 21 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: For what it's worth.... Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
NM14456 wrote:
For what it's worth -

Some of the confusion or different opinions on the attack may have come from some of the headlines. I just saw a current headline that has "populated" area etc.. I don't know about others but this immediately rang civilian to me and might to others including writers at newspapers.


This could be part of it. When i watched the news tonight a good part of it focused on the civilian evacuation and the burning homes.


Yeah, I suspect almost none of the information we have is even confirmable really. The Drudge report (for example) has an emotional headline that could be taken as a banner for WWIII. Meanwhile, armed forces Korea has not a mention of anything. We may just be entering the woods but until we know more - heading to bed for some sleep is the best strategy!!

buenas noches everyone!
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: For what it's worth.... Reply with quote

NM14456 wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
NM14456 wrote:
For what it's worth -

Some of the confusion or different opinions on the attack may have come from some of the headlines. I just saw a current headline that has "populated" area etc.. I don't know about others but this immediately rang civilian to me and might to others including writers at newspapers.


This could be part of it. When i watched the news tonight a good part of it focused on the civilian evacuation and the burning homes.


Yeah, I suspect almost none of the information we have is even confirmable really. The Drudge report (for example) has an emotional headline that could be taken as a banner for WWIII. Meanwhile, armed forces Korea has not a mention of anything. We may just be entering the woods but until we know more - heading to bed for some sleep is the best strategy!!

buenas noches everyone!


Speaking of agendas....
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

liveinkorea316 wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
If they truly wanted to target military only options, why not target the ships at sea?


You gotta remember no civilians were killed. Two marines were killed.

If the Norks were after those civilians I think they would have got them.

In actuality they targeted the base. And got it.

Targeting bases is a legitimate military strategy. Ask any Korean 12 year old who plays Starcraft and he will tell you. Civilians near bases does not make them targets. This Island was very small at just a few miles across and was less than 20 miles from the North Korean mainland. How accurate do you think artillary is?


But the question still stands - if you didn't want to target civilians (a hypothetical 'you' of course), why not target a purely military one?

You are presuming they targeted the base... mind telling me how you know that?
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NM14456



Joined: 21 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: For what it's worth.... Reply with quote

northway wrote:
NM14456 wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
NM14456 wrote:
For what it's worth -

Some of the confusion or different opinions on the attack may have come from some of the headlines. I just saw a current headline that has "populated" area etc.. I don't know about others but this immediately rang civilian to me and might to others including writers at newspapers.


This could be part of it. When i watched the news tonight a good part of it focused on the civilian evacuation and the burning homes.


Yeah, I suspect almost none of the information we have is even confirmable really. The Drudge report (for example) has an emotional headline that could be taken as a banner for WWIII. Meanwhile, armed forces Korea has not a mention of anything. We may just be entering the woods but until we know more - heading to bed for some sleep is the best strategy!!

buenas noches everyone!


Speaking of agendas....


No kidding. I assume you mean Drudge and not me!
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Nester Noodlemon



Joined: 16 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slowmotion wrote:
Did I just say just my friend? I did just mention his unit right? So his unit is the only unit who didn't know? Like I said, word normally travels fast, and obviously it didn't since the average soldier was unaware of the incident. It's pretty sad that civilians found out about it first hours before the average soldier did. Not to mention he's stationed north of Seoul, not like he's in Daegu.


You don't seem very bright. Now go back to teaching GOGO Loves English!
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Oreovictim



Joined: 23 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh-oh!

Fitting song, considering they'll be here soon.l

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZlDZPYzfm4
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