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Schools spare the rod and teachers get mauled

 
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Schools spare the rod and teachers get mauled Reply with quote

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2929996

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The Gyeonggi Education Office passed an ordinance to support students� rights on Oct. 5 that prohibits any kind of punishment in schools. The ordinance goes into effect in the spring 2011 semester.


ANY punishments? WHOA!
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Schools spare the rod and teachers get mauled Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2929996

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The Gyeonggi Education Office passed an ordinance to support students� rights on Oct. 5 that prohibits any kind of punishment in schools. The ordinance goes into effect in the spring 2011 semester.


ANY punishments? WHOA!



Note to self: Don't work in Gyenoggi.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gyeonggi hasn�t announced its alternatives to punishment.


It's okay to let the inmates run the asylum. Until the next election! Laughing
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next election I hope the guys running the MOE in Gyeonggi and Seoul will be booted out. They can't just throw corporal punishment completely out without of thinking viable alternative and a transition period. It's like they saw a documentary on some elite American private school and figured all schools are like that and decided to emulate it.

Anyways, I find it rich that people argue for kids rights. A smack to the butt is not going to harm anyone. We don't give children full rights anyways like voting, travelling, drinking and smoking.
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balzor



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Schools spare the rod and teachers get mauled Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
nathanrutledge wrote:
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2929996

Quote:
The Gyeonggi Education Office passed an ordinance to support students� rights on Oct. 5 that prohibits any kind of punishment in schools. The ordinance goes into effect in the spring 2011 semester.


ANY punishments? WHOA!



Note to self: Don't work in Gyenoggi.
same here with SMOE. after banning punishment, all the rules go out the window. I have had so many Korean teachers telling me in their classes they can't even control the students anymore
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balzor



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The final step is to order the student to a so-called �introspection room,� where an education consultant is available for advice, or where the student can read or study."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HA
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Corporal Punishment Reply with quote

The article also states that the ban on corporal punishment will be implemented nationally.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Corporal Punishment Reply with quote

chris_J2 wrote:
The article also states that the ban on corporal punishment will be implemented nationally.

There are 16 MOE in SK. It's up to each MOE to set rules, so far only 2 have banned cp. The Busan MOE have said they don't plan on changing their policy this term. I believe the others are waiting to see how this turns out before making any rash decisions.

As usual Seoul and area are the first to try 'new' things. If it is successful they roll it out nationally, otherwise it stays status quo.
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SparkleKorea



Joined: 05 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corporal punishment in schools is the foundational fabric of the Korean character. I would be infuriated to see it go.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
Next election I hope the guys running the MOE in Gyeonggi and Seoul will be booted out. They can't just throw corporal punishment completely out without of thinking viable alternative and a transition period.


As far as I know, they were just elected (on that platform actually - I voted against them).
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too. I'll be so infuriated, I'll start beatg my students down.

Oops, I can't do that anymore.

SparkleKorea wrote:
Corporal punishment in schools is the foundational fabric of the Korean character. I would be infuriated to see it go.
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mmstyle



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: wherever

PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, at my school, there is a new counselor, where the teachers are supposed to send the students rather than punish them. She is trained in psychology and counseling.

That said, there is no system set up, there seems to be little direction for what to do, my school has no idea what to do with her, and the teachers don't know how to transition the students to her, although they will sometimes pressure her to do things how they think she ought to.

This set up is temporary, as apparently the district has not decided if this will be a permanent program (her position is currently temporary), which it seems, all comes down to funding. Apparently, there is some discussion as to whether the only room available in the school (the computer room was gutted last week, which will disappoint many of my students) will be a counseling room or the new English Zone.

It's weird for me to have more security than someone else at my school, and for me to be the one advising her about the school culture. I think this is a test to see whether or not they can suddenly come up with a way to deal with the lack of punishment options.
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